Forum Ideas, and Concerns

[Guest]

Where'd that guy go? He was very active on the forum, now can't find him! Did he get booted, or delete profile?!

[lloyd378]

Good question..... I noticed a lack of participation from him recently

[Lamental Jester]

Good question..... I noticed a lack of participation from him recently

Lack of participation is one way to put it... his screen name is no longer active, lol

[Guest]

Last time he was on. When he trolled on my ad post. And madness had to clean it up.

[lloyd378]

Last time he was on. When he trolled on my ad post. And madness had to clean it up.

Well, there's no room on this forums for trolls! Well played madness

[Kaosu]

Last time he was on. When he trolled on my ad post. And madness had to clean it up.

he was not trolling your thread.


he deleted his account.

im pretty close to being done with the forum my self ^_^

[lloyd378]

Last time he was on. When he trolled on my ad post. And madness had to clean it up.

he was not trolling your thread.  


he deleted his account.  

im pretty close to being done with the forum my self ^_^

Sorry to hear this! What's causing you to be upset with Fishbox? I may be naive to some issues on here, and This is an attempt at an honest question. Feel free pm me, if you don't want it public knowledge.

[Madness]

When the issue on the thread occurred, I politely sent him a p.m. and asked him to refrain from those types of comments. They only cause issues. He deleted his account. All I can do is treat everyone the same, and try and keep peace. If people dont like the way things are run, I am not stopping them from leaving. You all have no idea how many negative comments I clean up on a weekly basis, and how many people get bent out of shape when you ask them to either do something a certain way, or to stop doing something. It comes with the job I guess, you cant please everyone.  

We have a good group here and I hate to see anyone leave, especially if its because they feel they have been wronged or are upset with the way things are run. I would rather they p.m. me so that we can discuss the issue/issues.

Leaving was his choice, and Kaosu Id hate to see you go also.

In fact, if anyone has any comments or ideas for improvement, please let me know, or if you see/have issues, please let me know there also. We dont want to lose anyone, but like I said above we cant please everyone, all we can do is our best to please most.

[lloyd378]

I think you are doing a good job, madness.

As for suggestions, I would like to see you add some new members that also love the sa/ca cichlids..... 

[Guest]

When the issue on the thread occurred, I politely sent him a p.m. and asked him to refrain from those types of comments.  They only cause issues.  He deleted his account.  All I can do is treat everyone the same, and try and keep peace.  If people dont like the way things are run, I am not stopping them from leaving.  You all have no idea how many negative comments I clean up on a weekly basis, and how many people get bent out of shape when you ask them to either do something a certain way, or to stop doing something.  It comes with the job I guess, you cant please everyone.  

We have a good group here and I hate to see anyone leave, especially if its because they feel they have been wronged or are upset with the way things are run.  I would rather they p.m. me so that we can discuss the issue/issues.  

Leaving was his choice, and Kaosu Id hate to see you go also.  

In fact, if anyone has any comments or ideas for improvement, please let me know, or if you see/have issues, please let me know there also.  We dont want to lose anyone, but like I said above we cant please everyone, all we can do is our best to please most.  

Well, I was just curious what happened to him that's all. I thought he was an asset to the forum. I've went rounds with moderators on this forum before as well, glad they were/are patient

[DMD123]

Great job by the mods keeping this site friendly and welcoming. Otherwise it would be just like MFK where you are afraid to say anything because someone is going to jump on what you say to start a flame war. We do have a good group here!  

[pbmax]

Perhaps a lighter touch might be a better approach?

Goodness knows you're not perfect, madness. I saw you delete something you shouldn't have posted a while back and clean up the thread like it was never there to begin with. That made me laugh. Sure would be nice if every one of us had the tools to do something like that huh?

Mods on the internet have been abusing power since its inception, even the good ones. Giving people a little more wiggle-room with what they post might help mitigate the bad taste in their mouths after you lay the mod smack down.

[Guest]

Great job by the mods keeping this site friendly and welcoming. Otherwise it would be just like MFK where you are afraid to say anything because someone is going to jump on what you say to start a flame war. We do have a good group here!  

                 

 

[Guest]

Please dont leave. This forum helps ppl get information, feedbacks, opinions, how to's from members like you guys whom have alot of experiences in this hobby and a place to sell, trade, and WTB from you all than using www.flakes from craiglist.com

[Madness]

Perhaps a lighter touch might be a better approach?

Goodness knows you're not perfect, madness.  I saw you delete something you shouldn't have posted a while back and clean up the thread like it was never there to begin with.  That made me laugh.  Sure would be nice if every one of us had the tools to do something like that huh?

Mods on the internet have been abusing power since its inception, even the good ones.  Giving people a little more wiggle-room with what they post might help mitigate the bad taste in their mouths after you lay the mod smack down.

Unfortunately for you all, you are right, you dont have the ability to delete something that you said, that you probably shouldnt have. I did say something without thinking, we all do/have. I had the ability to delete my comments, and if I didnt have that ability, I would have notified someone that did, to delete it. All of you have that ability.

When comments are made that I feel are inappropriate I will delete them without question, and I will notify the individual involved. We are all human and sometimes our mouths get ahead of our brains. It happens, and when it does I deal with with it.

[jettej]

One of my post got deleted with no question. I found it rude at first. But at the end I realized I posted a thread that might get me in serious trouble. I felt saved by the guy who deleted my post in the end

I like how we have events that are happening and are planned out.
I also like how we REALLY get good information, suggestion, deals and many more benefits from this forum.

We need more NEW people that will be active and serious in the forum. This will also increase the forums activity.

I went inactive to this forum i think 3 times. Not because of the forum itself but the whole fish hobby.but whenever i go back and try to be in the hobby again. This is the first website/forum i visit. Because i know. Members will give me updates and help

[pbmax]

When comments are made that I feel are inappropriate I will delete them without question, and I will notify the individual involved.  We are all human and sometimes our mouths get ahead of our brains.  It happens, and when it does I deal with with it.  

Apparently.

My point is that perhaps a warning shot like a post in the thread or a post edit before going nuclear (post deletion) would be a better approach.  Deleting posts really should be an absolute last resort.  When you do that you not only alienate the offender (deservedly or not), you also make it difficult for others to learn from that incident.  Most folks have someone telling them what to do and how to do it pretty much all day long (boss, parents, significant other, etc.); they like to relax and unwind a bit with their hobbies, including posting on here.  Heavy-handed moderation can makes it difficult to do this for some people.

I'm playing devil's advocate here; I don't think I've had any of my post moderated on here, but I understand the frustration of those that have.  Moderation walks a fine line; I'm arguing for moving that line a couple of inches back toward a more free flow of information.  Granted, you're the BOSSMAN here and you most likely don't give a hoot about what I have to say, but I figured I'd give it a shot.

[Guest]

Well I think Madness handled my situation pretty well. My ad was invaded by another posting another persons ad then this person states my ad is a waste of net space. I said things that should be deleted and was deleted. He cleaned up my ad to continue my sale. He cleaned up my ad! Nothing wrong with that! He took something that shouldn't be there in the first place. So give the a guy a break. He is human too. He probably works and has family to care for. He is not on here 24/7 to watch what goes on bad or good. 

[Guest]

When the issue on the thread occurred, I politely sent him a p.m. and asked him to refrain from those types of comments.  They only cause issues.  

Like madness said he politely PM that person and me also. After he cleaned up my ad. I was more happier that he did.

[earthfish]

This whole conversation seems like the subject should be renamed to Problems and situations.

[Aquarium Co-Op]

We need more NEW people that will be active and serious in the forum. This will also increase the forums activity.

I tried to help with this problem months ago. There are too many forums. Lots of post get lost there and never even get a reply. This is devastating to new person. No response = dead forum.

Forums we don't need:
Forum Operations
ID Forum
Introduction Thread
Photo Contest Thread should be a sticky in General.
Market Rules - should be stickies.
Aquatic Plants and Corals - Should be a part of freshwater/saltwater livestock sections.
Wanted items- people can put WTB in the for sale section
Free Items - People can put FREE in the for sale section
Rate Our Fish Stores should be combined with sponsor stores.
Also Sponsor stores should be encouraged to be active on their thread to keep their sponsorship status. Why do we keep people as sponsors who haven't been active in over a year?

Having 30 forum topics makes us look big. But that's all it does, the more you separate the conversation the worse the conversation will flow. Most of the saltwater forums should be merged into one until it's needed... Look at Saltwater fish breeding. 5 topics have been created there in the years this forum as been going... Most forums with less than 100 topics should just be combined into other things.

[Madness]

Great info Cory. I have to agree with most of it. I am going to change the topic title and make this a suggestion/complaint thread and then I will forward it all to the admin.

[Guest]

WAIT WAIT WAIT!

@ Madness, then where will we post non- aquatic conversations?

@ Cory, I do like the suggestions! I would like to be able to click 1 link and be in FS,WTB,TRADE, and FREE, then just be able to scroll through. I do like that.

You know , I didn't create this thread to slam anyone. Every public forum has its ups and downs, every faction of society has its individual personalities in which we all have to deal with . Compared to other forums I have signed onto WashFishBox is the most respectable by far. I like moderators, and welcome new insight on how to make things better & more efficient.

[pbmax]

I don't think lively discussion about real issues is slamming anyone. There's always room for improvement.

[KaraWolf]

About the only way I find stuff in here is by using the "portal" link unless I'm posting something new or looking for a particular topic. Trying to avoid being the dork who accidentally resurfaces threads that are over a year old *almost did that several times before discovering the portal link*

[Kaosu]

Well I think Madness handled my situation pretty well. My ad was invaded by another posting another persons ad then this person states my ad is a waste of net space. I said things that should be deleted and was deleted.  He cleaned up my ad to continue my sale. He cleaned up my ad! Nothing wrong with that! He took something that shouldn't be there in the first place. So give the a guy a break. He is human too. He probably works and has family to care for.  He is not on here 24/7 to watch what goes on bad or good. 

Please stop lying about what happened in your thread, its done and over and "cleaned up"..get over it and stop it.


What Cory said is mostly why he left. Non of his threads ever got meaningful responses..and being yelled at by a mod topped it off among other things.

[earthfish]

Well I think Madness handled my situation pretty well. My ad was invaded by another posting another persons ad then this person states my ad is a waste of net space. I said things that should be deleted and was deleted.  He cleaned up my ad to continue my sale. He cleaned up my ad! Nothing wrong with that! He took something that shouldn't be there in the first place. So give the a guy a break. He is human too. He probably works and has family to care for.  He is not on here 24/7 to watch what goes on bad or good. 

Please stop lying  about what happened in your thread, its done and over and "cleaned up"..get over it and stop it.


What Cory said is mostly why he left. Non of his threads  ever got meaningful responses..and being yelled at by a mod topped it off among other things.  

Calm Down... I'm sure madness wasn't unfair. It was his choice to leave, Not yours or Madness', You can't force people to reply. If they reply Great, If Not I just get over it and I'm sure others could too. SiRWesDragon Is not really to blame.

[DMD123]

Please stop lying  about what happened in your thread, its done and over and "cleaned up"..get over it and stop it.

Sorry to burst your bubble but there was no lie there. I saw the ad in question and I saw the response.

There was a clear attack!  

First another ad for free fish was posted on the ad SiRWesDragon had posted. This was from another fishbox member and had NOTHING to do with this sale. Also asking $6 for six fish was NOT unreasonable. So why the hijacking?

Second when SiRWesDragon asked what was up, there was another attack saying the 'ad is a waste of net space'.

I dont know either individual personally but I do know what I saw. To me it was someone picking a fight for no good reason. A Cyber bully? This was wrong. Yes SiRWesDragon was wrong to respond back in a not so friendly manner,   but wouldnt you do the same if someone attacked you?

This was a sad incident. Everyone should feel safe to be part of this site. Hate me if you want too, but when I saw the attack I reported it. Glad the mods here take action!

[Kaosu]

Well I think Madness handled my situation pretty well. My ad was invaded by another posting another persons ad then this person states my ad is a waste of net space. I said things that should be deleted and was deleted.  He cleaned up my ad to continue my sale. He cleaned up my ad! Nothing wrong with that! He took something that shouldn't be there in the first place. So give the a guy a break. He is human too. He probably works and has family to care for.  He is not on here 24/7 to watch what goes on bad or good. 

Please stop lying  about what happened in your thread, its done and over and "cleaned up"..get over it and stop it.


What Cory said is mostly why he left. Non of his threads  ever got meaningful responses..and being yelled at by a mod topped it off among other things.  

Calm Down... I'm sure madness wasn't unfair. It was his choice to leave, Not yours or Madness', You can't force people to reply. If they reply Great, If Not I just get over it and I'm sure others could too. SiRWesDragon Is not really to blame.

There is no calming down needed...I do not think you know the situation you are talking about, no one said anything about being unfair.

[Guest]

Thank you DMD123 for my defense but can we past this and focus on the improvements of fishbox. Kaosu, please stay we need everyone who has experience and input on this hobby. I really like this forum and like to respect everyone. Would like the same back to me.
 like this but not to close.

[Lamental Jester]

Can we all just have a drink and sing kumbaya?

[DMD123]

   

[Guest]

Yes like that. This is only place I can relate to others and find information. So lets improve it like we members think how we need it to be. Come on peeps. Let your input on this. Mods please change the title. I feel bad about the situation with PvtPain66k and I.

[Madness]

What Cory said is mostly why he left. Non of his threads  ever got meaningful responses..and being yelled at by a mod topped it off among other things.  

If letting him know that what he said was uncalled for, and that he needs to refrain from those types of comments, is yelling, OK I am guilty. I also informed him that there has been several threads with comments that were borderline, of purposely starting a confrontation. I politely asked to him to refrain from these types of comments. I can dig up the p.m. if you like and post it?

Bottom line is, things happen and things get said. A lot of the time things go unanswered. I myself also search the PORTAL for any new comments, updates or posts. I look at every single one of them, if I dont have an answer or an opinion, I dont say anything.

One of the biggest things that I do to new members that pisses them off, and I have had several leave because of this, and that is when I try to uphold the market rules. I get nasty p.m.'s every week when I ask individuals to please follow the rules. The only thing I can say about this is if individuals have skin that is so thin that they feel like they are beneath being spoken to and have to jump back as if they are being attacked, then IMO we dont need them here. If they break the rules, I delete and send them a p.m. explaining why. If they need to clean something up, again I will send them a p.m. asking them to do so. If I see that my p.m. has been read, and the individual has not attempted to correct the issue within 48 hours of reading my p.m. then I delete.

I enjoy being a mod, maybe it is a power trip, I dont know. I have always been the one in charge in all that I have done. School president, basketball team captain, an electrical foreman as soon as I got my license, commissioner of all my fantasy football leagues, anchor bowler on my bowling team. Maybe its also because I wont let the team fail, I am willing to make it the best out there, regardless if I piss a few off along the way. I dont mind the pressure, but I am also more than willing to listen to suggestions.

So please keep the ideas coming, I am sure Mikey is completely open to ideas also.

Also I am pretty positive that Mikey would agree to having 1 more mod. We need someone that is active, and is not afraid to do what is necessary to keep things running smoothly. If you are interested send me a p.m.

[lloyd378]

I'd love to see dmd as a mod! He's been on the box for a long time, very knowledgable about fishbox operations, knows quite a bit about fish, and he is also willing to take care of issues when he sees them.

As for deleting thread topics, I don't have an opinion one way or the other. I only usually read the portal (newest posts)... Unless I need to go back and find an old one for reference. Though now that I have typed this, I do like it broken down incase I do have to go back...... That's why I also check out info on mfk.... It's streamlined searching under common topics.... So I guess I lean just a little bit to keeping the topics/ adding more

[Guest]

Where'd that guy go? He was very active on the forum, now can't find him! Did he get booted, or delete profile?!



There.... Now we have come full circle in this insanity. Thread lock please MOD, and please change the name back you power junky!!!


I just kidding, I'm kidding!!

[DMD123]

I'd love to see dmd as a mod!  He's been on the box for a long time, very knowledgable about fishbox operations, knows quite a bit about fish, and he is also willing to take care of issues when he sees them.

Im power hungry and would ban everyone and call it all mine!  

Not really!  

I would love to... but with my employment situation, Im not sure how much time I will be able to spend here.  

[Lamental Jester]

I myself also search the PORTAL for any new comments, updates or posts. I look at every single one of them 

I found your new avatar:


Tee hee, I kid, I kid

[Guest]

I myself also search the PORTAL for any new comments, updates or posts. I look at every single one of them 

I found your new avatar:


Tee hee, I kid, I kid

 now that's some funny BEEEEP. <---- damn MOD!

[Madness]

I myself also search the PORTAL for any new comments, updates or posts. I look at every single one of them 

I found your new avatar:


Tee hee, I kid, I kid

 

[pbmax]

Being a mod is a crap job really... no matter what you do, someone will complain.  I have a pretty low tolerance for brainlessness; I think the inanity of dealing with some of the more challenging folks (like those who can't read and / or follow rules / directions to save their lives) would melt my brain.

Keep on truckin', Madness.

[Betty]

Madness, I've been a mod on a couple of forums in the past and what a pain it can be!! I thank you for the job you're doing.

[hobbyorobsession]

I'll say my issue with wafishbox is it limited draw. I only use the portal version of the site so I can see new content, other wise the forum section is just to vast. I will echo Cory. Less is more, condensing a lot of the topics would be easier to navigate. What I feel is most over looked is that we are all here because this site is location specific. So why isn't that a focus on the start up page or the site in general. Why can't we have a function of some sort that sorts post by location so I can get to know my neighbors. Also either make chat a usable function or get rid of it all together. I frequent another site that has the main page as chat room first and it's a real time conversation with people about what ever they want. I find that significantly more engaging than browsing the forum part of this site.

[nick_76]

I myself also search the PORTAL for any new comments, updates or posts. I look at every single one of them 

I found your new avatar:


Tee hee, I kid, I kid

I actually used to work there till about march or april 2001

my email tagline?
"NSA- Security is our middle name! ...but only because National Agency seemed a bit *too* vague"

the military intelligence war cry? "Don't kill me, I know secrets!"

[Madness]

I'll say my issue with wafishbox is it limited draw. I only use the portal version of the site so I can see new content, other wise the forum section is just to vast. I will echo Cory.  Less is more, condensing a lot of the topics would be easier to navigate. What I feel is most over looked is that we are all here because this site is location specific. So why isn't that a focus on the start up page or the site in general. Why can't we have a  function of some sort that sorts post by location so I can get to know my neighbors.  Also either make chat a usable function or get rid of it all together.  I frequent another site that has the main page as chat room first and it's a real time conversation with people about what ever they want. I find that significantly more engaging than browsing the forum part of this site.

Nice ideas, I like it....

[Guest]

I'll say my issue with wafishbox is it limited draw. I only use the portal version of the site so I can see new content, other wise the forum section is just to vast. I will echo Cory.  Less is more, condensing a lot of the topics would be easier to navigate. What I feel is most over looked is that we are all here because this site is location specific. So why isn't that a focus on the start up page or the site in general. Why can't we have a  function of some sort that sorts post by location so I can get to know my neighbors.  Also either make chat a usable function or get rid of it all together.  I frequent another site that has the main page as chat room first and it's a real time conversation with people about what ever they want. I find that significantly more engaging than browsing the forum part of this site.

Nice ideas, I like it....

 

[KaraWolf]

+1 for a useable chat. Would love to use it just thought no one was ever on 0.o

[Aquarium Co-Op]

You can't have usable chat and a forum. One will kill the other. There's no reason to post on the forum if you can get your question answered quickly in chat. etc. Just keep that in mind. I'm not saying one is better than the other, just that one ends the need for the other.

[Guest]

You can't have usable chat and a forum. One will kill the other. There's no reason to post on the forum if you can get your question answered quickly in chat. etc. Just keep that in mind. I'm not saying one is better than the other, just that one ends the need for the other.

This makes since too. Nothing compairs to being able to "show n tell" our setups, DYI projects, livestock! Blogging personal experiances. So regular posting would be a primary for me. When it comes to chatting email and PM is a great tool

[Guest]

This makes since too. Nothing compairs to being able to "show n tell" our setups, DYI projects, livestock!  Blogging personal experiances. So regular posting would be a primary for me. When it comes to chatting  email and PM is a great tool

I like that idea.

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