goldfish for a pond

i've heard that some goldfish can do well in ponds and grow to the size of volleyballs, is this true? and if so, what type of fancy goldfish? and where is a good place to buy them? i have pond over 8000 gallons and over 20 koi all over 12" and an albino catfish over 2 ft. i want one that will grow to be a fat, pudgy, ball!

Fancy's don't do well in the cold, with suggested 70-75* water temps for a healthy fancy GF.

Comets and I think shubunkins are cold tolerent-and your pond shouldn't completely freeze over at 8000 gallons. Common feeders are comet goldfish.

my understanding is that the those goldfsh that get that larger are a product of massive over feeding

get feeder goldfish they grow fast and huge. My mom had one for a long time it was to big for it to go down the toilit so we dug him a nice hole in the ground i got her 4 more at bridges in snohomish and they eat the algea like no other and grow like crazy. and thats my suggeston

Sarassa, and comet goldfish are gonna be your best choice. While some of those fancy guys get around 8", they are SLOWWWW and will easily be made food by a heron.

And fancy goldfish take FOREVER to grow, I had an oranda that I would age at about 3 years old, he was only 6" long, comets however are gonna grow FAST. But the koi will not hesitate to eat them. Found that out when I released 6 4" into a pond with 10" koi

I agree. Fancys don't do well in colder temp like most goldies do. Comets, shubunkins and other single tails will be your best bet.

guys i grow big ranchu and lion heads ,black moors in my pond ,here in marysville ,i winter them all the time,i put them in @ 1.99 and pull them out and sell for 20.00bucks ,been doing it for years,my pond works magic on them.
not trying to start a problem here im just a fan of goldfish and koi,

ive got a couple big moors i pulled out of the pond and spawned them in a fish tank in my shop ,ive got the babies on display.

i just got around 50 goldfish in ,lion heads ,ryukin,chocolate oranda,bubble eyes,and regular fantails,from tank to pond they go this spring ,ill leave some in till next year and pull others out for sale as monsters this fall

gold fish and koi rock !

jeff

the moors get the largest of the fancies when put outside ,come in and ill show you mine,

im so itchen for pond season ,im starting early this year ,next week im buying and will begin stocking koi .

Jeff, you should post some pictures

My grandparents had a 9 foot deep by 20 foot long pond in the middle of their driveway. They had some gold fish in there that grew to epic sizes. It was pretty ridiculous.

I dont know what type but they had no type of heat and they survived for many years.

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these 2 were wintered last year one ranchu and one lion head,

they were sold ,the pair mom and dad moors are still here in my shop ,i put them in for just 5 months then took them out ,their as big as those in the pictures,

one thing i hear often from people ,WILL IT GROW TO THE SIZE OF THE TANK?

those people are trying to keep a potentially big fish small,im just the opposite ,i wanna make them big

those are good sized.. My grandparents GF were massive... Like koi sized. And they swear they were gold fish not Koi.

Those are some decent sized goldies. Pretty cute too

I'm in the Market for some LARGE Lionheads and Ryukins if anyone has any............

YOUR DRIVING ME NUTTS!!! GET IN HERE IF MY RYUKINS AREN'T THE PRETTIEST ON THE PLANNET,,,ILL GET MORE THE NEXT DAY,,,,,READ MY PROFILE ,FAVORITE FISH.....goldfish

i even breed them in my shop,i was just in a huge warehouse today with my friend drooling over imports from china...

noon to 8 pm this weekend

ranchu,lion heads,ryukin,black moor,red cap oranda,

its time guys,many sizes ,get them small , put them in the pond and by fall they will hibernate just as well as your koi,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,what?no koi?

come see me

Picked up 3 awesome Ranchu Today from BFA. I'll be buying more as soon as more import ranchu's arrive.

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these 2 were wintered last year one ranchu and one lion head,

they were sold ,the pair mom and dad moors are still here in my shop ,i put them in for just 5 months then took them out ,their as big as those in the pictures,

one thing i hear often from people ,WILL IT GROW TO THE SIZE OF THE TANK?

those people are trying to keep a potentially big fish small,im just the opposite ,i wanna make them big

I'm sorry, when you say wintered do you mean you leave them outside or bring them in during the winter?
also im looking to make a nice barrel pond this summer and keep a couple of fancies. anyone know a good article on how to make one?

I had goldfish (comets) and kois in the same pond before and I thought that was a huge mistake. Once the comets are the appropriate size to breed, they breed like crazy. Every spring, my pond would turn a dark brown color because of their breeding. If you want to enjoy your kois, I wouldn't recommend putting them together. Otherwise, you can never get rid of the goldfish in you pond unless you drain it out.