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sandnuka Admin

Join date: 2010-04-29 Age: 30 Location: Marysville, Wa
 | Subject: How to raise KH? Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:27 am | |
| So I am tryin to find out if anyone has any thing they do to raise KH without raising GH? Or is this even possible?? Ive recently heard two different things on the topic and want everyone elses opinion on it. _________________ Sandnuka WFB Administrator
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larry.beck Contributing Member

Join date: 2010-05-25 Age: 47 Location: Poulsbo
 | Subject: Re: How to raise KH? Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:04 am | |
| To raise the KH without raising the GH, add sodium bicarbonate (NaHCO3), commonly known as baking soda. 1/2 teaspoon per 100 Liters raises the KH by about 1 dH. Sodium bicarbonate drives the pH towards an equilibrium value of 8.2. |
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sandnuka Admin

Join date: 2010-04-29 Age: 30 Location: Marysville, Wa
 | Subject: Re: How to raise KH? Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:47 am | |
| cant do that.... I need PH low in that tank as well..... its my discus planted tank... kh is super low... I need to keep the water soft, and acidic... but raise KH? any way possible? _________________ Sandnuka WFB Administrator
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larry.beck Contributing Member

Join date: 2010-05-25 Age: 47 Location: Poulsbo
 | Subject: Re: How to raise KH? Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:53 am | |
| Well you didn't say that!  LOL Umm... nope, I don't know how to do that. All of my tanks crave the high pH anyways so I'm always looking to raise it rather than lower it. Sorry. |
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Addictedtofish Lifetime Member

Join date: 2010-05-17 Age: 40 Location: Camano Island
 | Subject: Re: How to raise KH? Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:53 am | |
| If worried about it for breeding then you might need to look into a ro unit, JLO has one for sale for $50, other than for breeding you dont need soft acidic water for juvenile and older discus. |
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sandnuka Admin

Join date: 2010-04-29 Age: 30 Location: Marysville, Wa
 | Subject: Re: How to raise KH? Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:55 am | |
| breeding.... and also tryin to fix sex of babys... all important stuff, PH and KH  _________________ Sandnuka WFB Administrator
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flo77 FishBox Member
Join date: 2010-06-12 Location: Lynnwood
 | Subject: Re: How to raise KH? Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:00 pm | |
| Raise kH with baking soda. Lower pH by adding CO2. It is recommended to use a PH regulator(Milwaukee SMS 122 is an example or Pinpoint). For more info you can google for the CO2 vs PH and KH chart. |
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alexmuw Senior Member
Join date: 2010-04-17
 | Subject: Re: How to raise KH? Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:17 pm | |
| I hope your not going to add BOTH Sodium Bicarb and CO2, as they would cancel each others effects. (I use coral, calcium-carb, still buffers around 8.2)
NaCO3 + H20 --> Co2 + OH- (Thus raise pH), CO2 + h20 + Na+ (present in water) --> NaCo3 + H+ (acidic proton; lower pH).
GH is water hardiness? I think measure of Mg and Ca?
What do you want your pH to be? Need to find a buffer that will be around your pH.
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alexmuw Senior Member
Join date: 2010-04-17
 | Subject: Re: How to raise KH? Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:29 pm | |
| Can try Sodium Bisulfate (OR Sodium Sulfate)? Has a buffered pH of around 2. This will RAISE KH and lower pH.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_bisulfate
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/apisto_care.php (read under "water")
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sandnuka Admin

Join date: 2010-04-29 Age: 30 Location: Marysville, Wa
 | Subject: Re: How to raise KH? Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:19 pm | |
| alemuw - THAT IS EXACTLY what i was looking for! Thanks a million man! I need my ph in the mid 6's... and out of tap I run in the mid 7's.... the co2 and plants where helpin to keep the ph down, but the KH was droppin too much too... now will raising the KH also raise the GH?? cause I also need to keep my water super soft! _________________ Sandnuka WFB Administrator
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alexmuw Senior Member
Join date: 2010-04-17
 | Subject: Re: How to raise KH? Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:52 pm | |
| I think GH is a measure of HARD cations like: Mg2+ and Ca2+. Water softener system works by replacing Mg and Ca with Na+. So, anything that starts with "sodium...." shouldn;t raise GH.
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