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Post  DMD123 2011-12-07, 14:01

Its happened, Madness now has his "kids" in my tank! affraid

Here are a few quick, blurry shots:
A tank shot - they are hungry! pig
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Now my favorite, the hoga
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Here is the bocourti
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The Lyonsi
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One of the red devils
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The synspilum
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looks like a showdown but its not.
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One of the zonatus
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A couple of fish that are not from madness:
The new pleco from Zerc, under the red devil from madness
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My favorite red hook silver dollar. The only one with the freckles.
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While I'm at it here is my convict in the 29g. He will never sit still, so he got named Spaz
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I rushed to take pics before work so not the best but you get the idea. Madness's "kids" are running wild in my home! tongue

I missed a few like the other zonatus and red devil but they were being uncooperative brats! Rolling Eyes
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Post  Zerc 2011-12-07, 14:23

Nice fish! Can't wait to see them grow!
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Post  DMD123 2011-12-07, 14:28

Thanks!

So far they get along pretty well. I can see aggression starting in the red devils. In the grand scheme of things I see both devils and a zonatus going away. I will let them grow out for just a bit longer before I make any changes.
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Post  Zerc 2011-12-07, 14:30

I said the same thing about my midas when he started killing off my pictus cats. But he hasn't killed off anyone else since!
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Post  DMD123 2011-12-07, 14:32

Zerc wrote:But he hasn't killed off anyone else since!

Suspect since?

There will be others... LMFAO
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Post  Zerc 2011-12-07, 14:35

He's scared. I threaten him with "time out" in a 5 gallon bucket every few days!
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Post  DMD123 2011-12-07, 14:37

Ive tried 'time outs' on fish, they do not like it! Mad
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Post  Madness 2011-12-07, 14:46

They look awesome 'D', that Bocourti looks very nice. The Syns looks great also, hell, they all look very good. Smile
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Post  DMD123 2011-12-07, 14:58

The only ones looking a little haggard are the zo's. The one that I just got from you looks like he bashed his nose a little in the move. But he is doing great eating like a champ the other has a bit more blue coloring but is very shy and not eating like the rest.

The bocourti and synspilum are starting to color up nicely. They seem to be settling in and eating better. Seems like three weeks has been the magic amount of time for most cichlids to get somewhat comfortable with their new surroundings. Seemed to notice the same when I had the argentea and pearsei.

The shocker was the lyonsi, he is the smallest of all the fish but he kind of muscled his way in and is eating and interacting well. At fist glance looks like a hoga.

Thanks again madness for the "kids". Between fishman and myself you will get to see what the kids turn out like as adults.
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Post  fishman09 2011-12-07, 15:01

they look great. have fun with all these awesome fish
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Post  DMD123 2011-12-07, 15:07

Can see the family resemblance in our red devils.
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Post  Betty 2011-12-07, 17:32

Very nice. I like that red devil. Twisted Evil
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Post  DMD123 2011-12-07, 17:56

The orange and white combo seemed to be a small percentage of the batch from madness, the majority were all orange. Could all change with time, but these devils were very nice looking.
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Post  Madness 2011-12-07, 18:45

Here is another pic of one of my Red Devil children that is with a friend of mine.

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Post  DMD123 2011-12-07, 18:54

Same father, different mother?

How many females has he went through?
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Post  Madness 2011-12-07, 19:00

Nope. same batch. He feeds a lot and performs a lot of water changes. He is about 5+". So yours and Fishman should sprout soon. This guy looked like yours when he bought them. He bought 5 and he kept this one and gave the others to APFP. The largest one he took to APFP was 3".
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Post  VsKitchen 2011-12-07, 19:01

Nice looking fish! Congrats on your new fish Smile

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Post  Madness 2011-12-07, 19:02

The Hoga above the Devil is also about 5".
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Post  DMD123 2011-12-07, 19:10

I am a little disappointed... I hope mine does not lose the pattern and become plain looking.
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Post  DMD123 2011-12-07, 19:11

VsKitchen wrote:Nice looking fish! Congrats on your new fish Smile

Thanks!

Your next! One day you too will have "the kids" in your tank! LMFAO
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Post  fishman09 2011-12-07, 19:13

my devil and hoga are about 5.5" easy and growing fast
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Post  DMD123 2011-12-07, 19:17

Your RD still has the cool pattern.

Probably will not matter in my case anyway, these guys seem to be the aggressors so most likely will go.
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Post  fishman09 2011-12-07, 19:21

very odd cause my devil has been cooler tan a yeti in hawaii. the hoga has started to çhallenge my male fred but knows his place
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Post  Madness 2011-12-07, 19:23

DMD123 wrote:I am a little disappointed... I hope mine does not lose the pattern and become plain looking.

It will,but will come back as it grows.
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Post  DMD123 2011-12-07, 19:30

Things in my tank are going to change. The hoga easily eats twice the amount as the devil. He will out outgrow the devil quickly. So we will see how he does when he is larger. My hoga gets along with just about everyone but has a little issue with both the zo.
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Post  fishman09 2011-12-07, 19:42

having the largest fish in my 240 be the fred and him being reallu chill sets the tone for everyone else ánd its like a mutual respect they all have amd the tanks plenty big
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Post  DMD123 2011-12-07, 22:26

madness,
Had to follow up on the zo's. The one from your pair is doing awesome, eats like a pig and is starting to get really comfortable in the tank. Still does not have the color of the other one. The other smaller zo (from gauge?) is totally lame, does not come out and hides in the upper corners a lot.

Interesting difference in the fish. Just passing it along. Yes your fish rock punk
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Post  fishman09 2011-12-07, 23:26

i have one of madness's zonatus thats a little stud. put him in the tank a month ago and he was the lowest on the pecking order but really keeps to himself and has put on about an inch. oddly the most aggressive for no reason fish in my tank is the synispilum. he seems to have an aread that hes constantly sifting through and seems to go crazy sometimes if anybody intrudes.
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Post  DMD123 2011-12-07, 23:44

My synspilum is kind of shy but because he is the biggest (just by a hair) everyone gives him space. The red devil does not even mess with him. He seems to be the gentle like the bocoutri.
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Post  fishman09 2011-12-07, 23:58

its funny the veija species tend to keep to themselves in my tank. they keep to themselves so everyone seems to leave them alone. the aggression level in my tank is very low but theres still ripped fins every once in a while but hardly ever to the syn or zo Suspect
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Post  DMD123 2011-12-08, 00:02

My guys are still pretty small around the 3" mark if I were to guess. I'm sure I will see some interesting changes with in the next couple of months. Twisted Evil
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Post  fishman09 2011-12-08, 00:06

for sure Very Happy
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Post  Madness 2011-12-08, 02:13

Im glad you both are enjoying my offspring. Smile Selling the rest of my Zo's 1st spawn and 15 more Devils to a LFS tomorrow. My Devils are turning out so awesome, I cant wait to see what my Xilo's turn out like. bounce
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Post  fishman09 2011-12-08, 02:42

madness wrote:Im glad you both are enjoying my offspring. Smile Selling the rest of my Zo's 1st spawn and 15 more Devils to a LFS tomorrow. My Devils are turning out so awesome, I cant wait to see what my Xilo's turn out like. bounce

thanks for having such awesome fish to distribute Very Happy
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Post  DMD123 2011-12-08, 11:09

madness wrote:Selling the rest of my Zo's 1st spawn and 15 more Devils to a LFS tomorrow.

Making more room cheers
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Post  seattle23 2011-12-12, 04:43

DMD123 wrote:I am a little disappointed... I hope mine does not lose the pattern and become plain looking.


Naw he actually didn't lose anything. I wanted ones that looked as plain as can be. The others I kept with pattern still look good. I will try and post a few better pics here soon. Just a bit busy with work these days.

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Post  seattle23 2011-12-12, 04:46

DMD123 wrote:Things in my tank are going to change. The hoga easily eats twice the amount as the devil. He will out outgrow the devil quickly. So we will see how he does when he is larger. My hoga gets along with just about everyone but has a little issue with both the zo.


I thought the same thing between my hoga's and devil's then out of nowhere the devil overtook everyone for the lead. Now he just hoover vacs anything edible that nears him.

Pics of Madness's offspring. I got all these guys around an inch big.


F1 Red Devil right after dinner Smile
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F1 Hogas
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Post  DMD123 2011-12-12, 13:52

Very nice looking. The hoga had an interesting color change.

I will not need to worry about the red devils in the tank anymore. One died and the other I put down due to illness. I think I may have some remnants of a bacterial infection in my tank. My hoga seems to be doing fine. Great personality and seems to get along with everyone very nicely, so far...
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Post  Madness 2011-12-12, 13:55

Very nice. Smile That Hoga that is now orange, I really hope is a Hoga, (and not just a very late peeling devil) cause if it is in fact a Hoga. I cant wait to see what it turns out like.
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Post  Madness 2011-12-12, 13:56

DMD123 wrote:Very nice looking. The hoga had an interesting color change.

I will not need to worry about the red devils in the tank anymore. One died and the other I put down due to illness. I think I may have some remnants of a bacterial infection in my tank. My hoga seems to be doing fine. Great personality and seems to get along with everyone very nicely, so far...

That sucks. Sad
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Post  DMD123 2011-12-12, 14:16

The small zo was really looking bad, skinny and not eating. The small red devil too was acting strange and not eating. I didnt want to give up on them but I thought it better to remove the sick.

The bocourti still worries me because it too just does not want to eat. But I am giving it a chance because it is not acting totally weird. Whatever issues had hit my tank, the lack of appetite was the first symptom. I am not seeing anything else, no fuzz or issues on the body and no stringy white poo. I hope this is not another round of illness but just a few stressed fish that succumbed.

I dont know if my silver dollars can be "carriers" and infect others. Maybe the issue was that I should have bleached everything including the gravel. I did not do a 100% disinfection of everything so some remnants of the bacteria could have survived.
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Post  seattle23 2011-12-12, 23:48

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Madness's hoga hanging with one of my festae.

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Post  Madness 2011-12-12, 23:59

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Madness's hoga hanging with one of my festae.

Very nice. Awesome picture. Smile
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Post  DMD123 2011-12-13, 00:44

Was the hoga always lighter colored? Mine is a lot darker. Then again I also have a darker gravel. Just wondering if mine might lighten up with age.

Nice pics!
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Post  seattle23 2011-12-13, 00:45

DMD123 wrote:Was the hoga always lighter colored? Mine is a lot darker. Then again I also have a darker gravel. Just wondering if mine might lighten up with age.

Nice pics!

No he/she was darker then went lighter.

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Post  DMD123 2011-12-13, 14:56

I like the darker color on mine. Sad

But I notice that on the full grown fish it seems the color darkens up again. Probably just a phase in their growth, kind of like peeling in the red devils and midas.
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Post  Madness 2011-12-13, 14:57

Mine go from dark to light and back to dark, depending on the mood. Smile
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Post  fishman09 2011-12-13, 15:25

madness wrote:Mine go from dark to light and back to dark, depending on the mood. Smile

+1 Very Happy heres some pics of my male. about 5" and starting to put on some mass
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and a couple pics of my male devil also 5". and has a very similar pattern to his dad Very Happy
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Post  DMD123 2011-12-13, 16:17

fishman,

Your current hoga pics look like mine. In a previous picture post he was lighter like Seattle23's. I think it was your community picture post.
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Post  fishman09 2011-12-13, 16:30

his colors change from light to dark at a moments notice
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