Boring, Dull, African fish...

Anything in particular you're looking for? Several of us in the area breed and may have what you need, or know where you can find it in the LFS.

Bumble bee and flavus, red top trewasse. also a couple each of the pics 1 and 4 , abouy 10-15 all together. I can trade fry, I also have Kigoma frontosa fry about an inch long.

Really great pics everyone!

I will have to admit that mine are pretty cookie cutter mix. What I really want to add in there is a small group 2 male 4 or 5 female Afra white top hara's anyone run across some of those on here or know much about them?
I have found them on aqua bid here and there just haven't pulled the trigger yet.

larry.beck wrote:Jeff, is #1 the Mpanga? I can't tell for sure, but it looks like a Ps. to me.

Yep. elongatus mphanga. I have a pair, but way past prime...I am looking for a new bloodline.

bassetman wrote:Excellent pics, what are the 1st and 4th varieties?

1st pic: elongatus mphanga
4th pic: elongatus chewere

JimA wrote: I will have to admit that mine are pretty cookie cutter mix. What I really want to add in there is a small group 2 male 4 or 5 female Afra white top hara's anyone run across some of those on here or know much about them?
I have found them on aqua bid here and there just haven't pulled the trigger yet.

Larry carry these afra white top haras. I used to have them and they are nice. However get at least a dozen juvies and grow em out. should take about 8 month to adult sizes, then thin some males out. I started out with 20 of em and established a nice colony.

Thanks for the info.

JimA wrote: I will have to admit that mine are pretty cookie cutter mix. What I really want to add in there is a small group 2 male 4 or 5 female Afra white top hara's anyone run across some of those on here or know much about them?
I have found them on aqua bid here and there just haven't pulled the trigger yet.

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You should pull the trigger, JimA, you really should!

Rick wrote:I have never kept cichlids but when I see such a nice tank like your Jim I sure start thinking about trying. I realy like the color and that back ground is great.

Rick

Have to chime in, Rick do you realize Angel Fish are Cichlids?

madness wrote:

JimA wrote: For me I would rather have a tank full of active colorful fish than a big dark tank with 2 or 3 big lethargic fish just swimming around amongst some sticks. The fish I have are fairly easy to take care of and I enjoy watching them swim around with the occasional chasing.

HMMMMMM, I disagree. You say a tank full of active colorful fish. OK you get that with Africans, mainly because if they aren't banging into each other they aren't happy. So you are able to stuff the tank full of color.

But, my C/S Am. tanks are full of color. Maybe not the bright yellow or blue, but definitely many different and bright colors. Now you kinda slam us with " than a big dark tank with 2 or 3 big lethargic fish just swimming around amongst some sticks". And 100 stupid little chihuahua's swimming in and out of rocks is better? Now my tanks are not dark, and my fish are from from lethargic. In fact I would venture to say that S/C Am tanks are far more enjoyable to watch. And you can't possibly tell me that your Africans have even 5% of the personality of the S/C Am. Cichlids. When I put my hand in the tank, the fish fish swim up against me, like a cat does. I literally hand feed some of them. (they come up to my hand and gently take it out of my fingers) In fact if I had a tank large enough for me to get into it, I bet my fish would come over to me and interact. Yours would scream and hide.

So, yes lots of brighter colors. And your done there. No competition what so ever when it comes to everything else.

If you dont agree, feel free to come on over and I will introduce you to some lame, big, lethargic, fish. Oh wait, I dont have that, so if thats what you want to see, you wont find it at my place.

I guess if I want bright colorful chihuahua's with no personality, I'd go buy a box of fruit loops instead. backatcha!!

i know this is old, but i thought id throw in some change.
I'm not sure where you get "100 stupid little chihuahua's swimming in and out of rocks"
I have 11 Cichlids and love them. I also am a big fan of S/C American Cichlids. However.

Oscar's are like dogs, you can pet them, you can make them jump after your finger.
But not all dogs liked to be pet, and not all dogs play with balls and fingers.

Another thing to add... I dont know what you are talking about when you say "Scream and hide" you say it like they are affraid of you.
Here is where i disagree... i stick my hands in the tank all the time, atleast 6/11 of my fish will begin interacting with me.
swimming by me, swimming around my hand, playing with eachother almost "showing off"

Again, not all dogs play, and not all dogs run.

Another thing, i dont know how you can even compare a cichlid with a chihuahua.
I don't know any chihuahua who will constantly bite and chase to protect a bone or his "house"
I would compare them more to a pitbull.. who WILL hite, and chase to protect a house or bone...


my fish are territorial. My fish dont care if the fish is 3x their size, they will fight for their spot.
Its like David Vs Goliath.

Why are car guys into Honduh Civics? Because its an oddball, small, typically known to be slow car.
Yet with an engine swap they DESTROY muscle cars. without a turbo or nitrous needed.

Its not about whats cool, or whats more pretty, its about what YOU as the owner like.

i hate civics, i cant stand what people do to them, but i respect them. and i understand why their owners appreciate them.

In the arguement on which one is cooler, swims more, is prettier.

you name a S/C American Cichlid and ill name a south african cichlid that is more active, has more colors, and swims more.
and after i name the african i am sure you could name an S/C American cichlid to match...


ITS PREFERENCE, there is no better, there no prettier, there is no cooler fish.
I personally LOVE watching Africans fight. They swim crazy rapid, all of their colors pop. they become fierce...

Oscars for instance, fight aswell... however they just lock lips and it looks like a hardcore makeout session.
if you are into watching fish makeout over territory.....

Anyways, africans have amazing fighting sessions, mating sessions, their personality is unique etc..
and i do agree, S/C American cichlids do have nice colors, and are a pleasure to watch.
but they are both equally beautiful, equally have amazing personalities, and equally are unique and special to own.

AE86-Danny wrote:

...Yet with an engine swap they DESTROY muscle cars. without a turbo or nitrous needed.

AE86-Danny wrote:

madness wrote:

JimA wrote: For me I would rather have a tank full of active colorful fish than a big dark tank with 2 or 3 big lethargic fish just swimming around amongst some sticks. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] The fish I have are fairly easy to take care of and I enjoy watching them swim around with the occasional chasing.

HMMMMMM, I disagree. You say a tank full of active colorful fish. OK you get that with Africans, mainly because if they aren't banging into each other they aren't happy. So you are able to stuff the tank full of color.

But, my C/S Am. tanks are full of color. Maybe not the bright yellow or blue, but definitely many different and bright colors. Now you kinda slam us with " than a big dark tank with 2 or 3 big lethargic fish just swimming around amongst some sticks". And 100 stupid little chihuahua's swimming in and out of rocks is better? Now my tanks are not dark, and my fish are from from lethargic. In fact I would venture to say that S/C Am tanks are far more enjoyable to watch. And you can't possibly tell me that your Africans have even 5% of the personality of the S/C Am. Cichlids. When I put my hand in the tank, the fish fish swim up against me, like a cat does. I literally hand feed some of them. (they come up to my hand and gently take it out of my fingers) In fact if I had a tank large enough for me to get into it, I bet my fish would come over to me and interact. Yours would scream and hide.

So, yes lots of brighter colors. And your done there. No competition what so ever when it comes to everything else.

If you dont agree, feel free to come on over and I will introduce you to some lame, big, lethargic, fish. Oh wait, I dont have that, so if thats what you want to see, you wont find it at my place.

I guess if I want bright colorful chihuahua's with no personality, I'd go buy a box of fruit loops instead. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] backatcha!!

i know this is old, but i thought id throw in some change.
I'm not sure where you get "100 stupid little chihuahua's swimming in and out of rocks"
I have 11 Cichlids and love them. I also am a big fan of S/C American Cichlids. However.

Oscar's are like dogs, you can pet them, you can make them jump after your finger.
But not all dogs liked to be pet, and not all dogs play with balls and fingers.

Another thing to add... I dont know what you are talking about when you say "Scream and hide" you say it like they are affraid of you.
Here is where i disagree... i stick my hands in the tank all the time, atleast 6/11 of my fish will begin interacting with me.
swimming by me, swimming around my hand, playing with eachother almost "showing off"

Again, not all dogs play, and not all dogs run.

Another thing, i dont know how you can even compare a cichlid with a chihuahua.
I don't know any chihuahua who will constantly bite and chase to protect a bone or his "house"
I would compare them more to a pitbull.. who WILL hite, and chase to protect a house or bone...


my fish are territorial. My fish dont care if the fish is 3x their size, they will fight for their spot.
Its like David Vs Goliath.

Why are car guys into Honduh Civics? Because its an oddball, small, typically known to be slow car.
Yet with an engine swap they DESTROY muscle cars. without a turbo or nitrous needed.

Its not about whats cool, or whats more pretty, its about what YOU as the owner like.

i hate civics, i cant stand what people do to them, but i respect them. and i understand why their owners appreciate them.

In the arguement on which one is cooler, swims more, is prettier.

you name a S/C American Cichlid and ill name a south african cichlid that is more active, has more colors, and swims more.
and after i name the african i am sure you could name an S/C American cichlid to match...


ITS PREFERENCE, there is no better, there no prettier, there is no cooler fish.
I personally LOVE watching Africans fight. They swim crazy rapid, all of their colors pop. they become fierce...

Oscars for instance, fight aswell... however they just lock lips and it looks like a hardcore makeout session.
if you are into watching fish makeout over territory.....

Anyways, africans have amazing fighting sessions, mating sessions, their personality is unique etc..
and i do agree, S/C American cichlids do have nice colors, and are a pleasure to watch.
but they are both equally beautiful, equally have amazing personalities, and equally are unique and special to own.

Did you read the whole thread? Are you looking to start something? The comments back and forth were playful jabs between African owners on this site and C/S Am owners on this site. I have an African tank, (BORING) and I have several S/CA tanks. So not sure where you are going with this. Oscars are lame, and Africans are just OK IMO. I would NEVER own a Honda (LAME), I will stick with the CA Cichlid car, a good old 69 Mustang fastback. Wo, what was that? That was a.................................... (African) Honda that ....................... I just flew past. Welcome, but your barking at the wrong tree, for the wrong reasons.

madness wrote:

AE86-Danny wrote:

madness wrote:

JimA wrote: For me I would rather have a tank full of active colorful fish than a big dark tank with 2 or 3 big lethargic fish just swimming around amongst some sticks. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] The fish I have are fairly easy to take care of and I enjoy watching them swim around with the occasional chasing.

HMMMMMM, I disagree. You say a tank full of active colorful fish. OK you get that with Africans, mainly because if they aren't banging into each other they aren't happy. So you are able to stuff the tank full of color.

But, my C/S Am. tanks are full of color. Maybe not the bright yellow or blue, but definitely many different and bright colors. Now you kinda slam us with " than a big dark tank with 2 or 3 big lethargic fish just swimming around amongst some sticks". And 100 stupid little chihuahua's swimming in and out of rocks is better? Now my tanks are not dark, and my fish are from from lethargic. In fact I would venture to say that S/C Am tanks are far more enjoyable to watch. And you can't possibly tell me that your Africans have even 5% of the personality of the S/C Am. Cichlids. When I put my hand in the tank, the fish fish swim up against me, like a cat does. I literally hand feed some of them. (they come up to my hand and gently take it out of my fingers) In fact if I had a tank large enough for me to get into it, I bet my fish would come over to me and interact. Yours would scream and hide.

So, yes lots of brighter colors. And your done there. No competition what so ever when it comes to everything else.

If you dont agree, feel free to come on over and I will introduce you to some lame, big, lethargic, fish. Oh wait, I dont have that, so if thats what you want to see, you wont find it at my place.

I guess if I want bright colorful chihuahua's with no personality, I'd go buy a box of fruit loops instead. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] backatcha!!

i know this is old, but i thought id throw in some change.
I'm not sure where you get "100 stupid little chihuahua's swimming in and out of rocks"
I have 11 Cichlids and love them. I also am a big fan of S/C American Cichlids. However.

Oscar's are like dogs, you can pet them, you can make them jump after your finger.
But not all dogs liked to be pet, and not all dogs play with balls and fingers.

Another thing to add... I dont know what you are talking about when you say "Scream and hide" you say it like they are affraid of you.
Here is where i disagree... i stick my hands in the tank all the time, atleast 6/11 of my fish will begin interacting with me.
swimming by me, swimming around my hand, playing with eachother almost "showing off"

Again, not all dogs play, and not all dogs run.

Another thing, i dont know how you can even compare a cichlid with a chihuahua.
I don't know any chihuahua who will constantly bite and chase to protect a bone or his "house"
I would compare them more to a pitbull.. who WILL hite, and chase to protect a house or bone...


my fish are territorial. My fish dont care if the fish is 3x their size, they will fight for their spot.
Its like David Vs Goliath.

Why are car guys into Honduh Civics? Because its an oddball, small, typically known to be slow car.
Yet with an engine swap they DESTROY muscle cars. without a turbo or nitrous needed.

Its not about whats cool, or whats more pretty, its about what YOU as the owner like.

i hate civics, i cant stand what people do to them, but i respect them. and i understand why their owners appreciate them.

In the arguement on which one is cooler, swims more, is prettier.

you name a S/C American Cichlid and ill name a south african cichlid that is more active, has more colors, and swims more.
and after i name the african i am sure you could name an S/C American cichlid to match...


ITS PREFERENCE, there is no better, there no prettier, there is no cooler fish.
I personally LOVE watching Africans fight. They swim crazy rapid, all of their colors pop. they become fierce...

Oscars for instance, fight aswell... however they just lock lips and it looks like a hardcore makeout session.
if you are into watching fish makeout over territory.....

Anyways, africans have amazing fighting sessions, mating sessions, their personality is unique etc..
and i do agree, S/C American cichlids do have nice colors, and are a pleasure to watch.
but they are both equally beautiful, equally have amazing personalities, and equally are unique and special to own.

Did you read the whole thread? Are you looking to start something? The comments back and forth were playful jabs between African owners on this site and C/S Am owners on this site. I have an African tank, (BORING) and I have several S/CA tanks. So not sure where you are going with this. Oscars are lame, and Africans are just OK IMO. I would NEVER own a Honda (LAME), I will stick with the CA Cichlid car, a good old 69 Mustang fastback. Wo, what was that? That was a.................................... (African) Honda that ....................... I just flew past. Welcome, but your barking at the wrong tree, for the wrong reasons.

Not trying to start anything with anyone, just posting some things.
And yes i did read the whole thread. It sounded to me like you were simply pushing your opinion on the others. just sayin.
African Tank being boring? What kind of Africans did you have? because none of mine are "boring"

You think Oscar's are lame... sounds to me like you only like stupidly aggressive, chubby fish that dont do well with others.
i can appreciate that tho..


for the record. i own a 64 Mustang 302 Smallblock, 66 VW bug, AE86 (google it), and an 85 MR2. Recently sold the 86 MR2 for the AE86.

And umm... On the car situation... Not all 69 Fastback stangs were fast, infact alot of them were gutless piles, with insane potential after a motor swap.
i hate when people say Chevelle this!! Nova that! Mustang This! Civic That!!
All of those cars were piles of crap until swapped. For instance the beloved 69 SS Chevelle 396... 14.66 sec @ 99.8mph 0-60MPH in 6 Seconds.
I used to have a list of like 150+ muscle cars in stock trim doing quarter mile runs, 0-60, HP, engine, tranny specs etc...
70% of those cars ran sub 15 second quarters, 10% ran high 14s, 10% ran low 14's, and less than 10% broke 13's...
My opinion on muscle cars might shock you... i believe strongly that they are all show no go.
simply because almost ANY respectable "sporty" car from any of the japanese car manufactures will break sub 15 second quarters.
and they are supposed to be cheap and gutless right? Yet they are competing with these Goliath cars, with stupid big engines, with HALF the engine and less then half the cc or cubic inches.


Anyways, not trying to start up an argument or a fight.. like i said just giving an opinion.

You two should just lock lips like Oscars and get it over with

As the person who started the whole thing to begin with, let me state the purpose of it. At the time this was done wafishbox was pretty slow. So to get people more involved I had posted goofy topics like this. This was done in fun and got a lot of response. This was really not meant to be taken seriously that 'my fish are better than your fish'. madness was right when he said it was playful jabs + = ! So AE86-Danny dont get so wound up on a topic that was done in fun.

HAHAHA!!! This is pure comedy. I always say people in the PNW are so uptight, do not know how to laugh, joke and just so damn serious. Always trying to be polite and friendly and feelings being hurt... I could rant about this endlessly but I do not want to be "rude"

SA/CA cichlid people have a tiny complex...


The smart-assed black guy has spoken.

@DMD123

That's why I tried to bring some humor back to the topic


For the record I only keep africans, but every Cichlid is cool in my book.

I feel like I should start a Bettas are better then cichlids...

I like all fish, plain and simple!

AE86-Danny wrote:...sounds to me like you only like stupidly aggressive, chubby fish that dont do well with others.

Breeding pairs never do well with other fish, and Madness only owns breeding pairs. This is not Madness's fault. We like to blame his water. He put a dovii in with a turtle last week and hes already has eggs!

I like them all too, DMD. If I had the time, room, and money, I'd want to keep some of everything, including saltwater. I've had a lot of different types of fish in my 40 years being in this hobby, and the African cichlids, especially from Lake Malawi, are my favorites.

I guess I should apologize for not seeing some of those early comments as playful jabs. The 100 stupid little chihuahuas with no personality comment kind of got to me.

Well as a big dopey CA cichlid owner I did not mean to offend anyone. Like I said the purpose was to get some activity going here. And you know what it worked! Glad to see people wanting to defend their choice in pets but we should not have to do that because we are all here for the same reason... Our love of fish!

Well I do enjoy my Africans, just not to the point of talking about them. I can take pics of them too, if you all like. IMO C/SA Cichlids are more entertaining and interactive.

NEWBS

Like D said, It worked didnt it!!! Now we get to see Betty's wonderful setups, Me and Terance's beautiful fish. Annthrax came back. (though most of us would like to see him leave again. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]) JK.......

Zerc shared with us his awesome collection, Adonijah came out of the closet, and started showing his family. And several others have chimed in and became very active. Nicely done D.

They all will and do work for each of us, and if you cant be chill a bit when you get a friendly jab, its not going to work.

Dont get me wrong, we do get into some good discussions, but they themselves should stay on topic.

madness ur not funny bro, lolz

Anthraxx wrote:madness ur not funny bro, lolz

Come on.. A little funny? [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

madness wrote:Well I do enjoy my Africans, just not to the point of talking about them. I can take pics of them too, if you all like.

I'd like.

Looks to me like i woke the giants
Welcome back to the forums everyone? lol

ok, here are a few of my Africans. The back glass has algae all over it, not the front.

one of the Victorians
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Astalilopia (sp)
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one of the Neo's, cant remember which
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part of the family of Brichardi
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another Vic
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and the shellies
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I can not confirm or deny any such African tanks existing in madness house. Said pictures could have been altered and belong in the category of UFO's, big Foot and the Loch Ness monster. (They do not exist!)

DMD123 wrote:I can not confirm or deny any such African tanks existing in madness house. Said pictures could have been altered and belong in the category of UFO's, big Foot and the Loch Ness monster. (They do not exist!)

Thats because they are in my son's room. I am ashamed to let anyone go in there. You know, boys, messy, I think its just part of their way of living.

Madness, what is the Vic in your first and sixth pic?

Honestly I havent figured it out. Bought both of them when only 3/4" big. Paid $10 for 5 fish. The guy had all of them in 1 125 gal tank. He had like 5 different spawning pairs, one of the pairs was a Christmas fulu.

Any ideas as to what you think?

Hey madness, can i have that red ruby peacock?
or any other peacocks / labs you wanna get rid of?
my tank still has shoulder room!!!! ahahahahha

AE86-Danny wrote:Hey madness, can i have that red ruby peacock?
or any other peacocks

A, nope on the Ruby. I do have another male in the tank but is not showing colors. I think its a lemon something, it is yellowish.

madness wrote:

AE86-Danny wrote:Hey madness, can i have that red ruby peacock?
or any other peacocks

A, nope on the Ruby. I do have another male in the tank but is not showing colors. I think its a lemon something, it is yellowish.

if its a peacock, and you dont want it. ill take it. especially yellow,orange,reds. i have blues and oranges, but i want more yellow/reds.

also looking for an excuse to come see your giants.. i just spent 3 hours watching videos on TriMac's, Dovii's, Red devils, severums....



the 55 gallon tank i was looking at fell through sadly. petco needs to do a dollar a gallon sale already !!!!
100+ gallon will be mine in the quickness.

Nice! Thanks for posting them.

Well I wasnt looking to get rid of him. But would sell him for $5 to $10.

Adonijah wrote:

HUH

You had said I came out the closet. So I pulled some vintage gay internet gold.

Adonijah wrote:You had said I came out the closet. So I pulled some vintage gay internet gold.

LOL, that was awesome. I actually recognized the GI Joe footage right away. Shows how old I am

me wrote:LOL, that was awesome. I actually recognized the GI Joe footage right away. Shows how old I am

i recognized it too.
but it was one of my favorite early morning shows through elementary school...


your not old! get out of here with that ish!

Danny,
Are you interested in the Peacock still?

madness wrote:Danny,
Are you interested in the Peacock still?

i sure am!


hey, do you any places that will come out to your property and pick up old cars that need scrapped and pay you a little cash?

i have a 1985 MR2 that i stripped to a shell basically (it still rolls) and it needs gone. only lookin for 50-100 bucks for it.
im gonna call pull-a-part now.

I know that there are a lot of scrapers out there, not sure who to contact though.

Post it as 'will trade scrap for fish'

DMD123 wrote:Post it as 'will trade scrap for fish'

PAHAHAHAHA thats not going to work roflmao.

Well gang I'm a fence rider on this discussion LOL keep africans & SA's and some others in between. There isn't a dull personality in all the SA's and guess because my africans for the most have been here so many years they aren't shy in the least and come right up to feed. If anyones a tad skittish it'd have to be the Vics and that isn't saying much LOL Color isn't a huge issue since my favorite fish is brown guess that explains my "thing" for the Labeo Fuellebornis with their OB natural look