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Post  sidekicking 2010-06-15, 18:05

lars you cant abandon the 2.5 gallon projet....you need to find something for it ASAP
maybe ice cream tank????
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Post  lilfishie 2010-06-15, 18:06

Its all good. Maybe one day when I am retired or working from home I'll try again.
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Post  lilfishie 2010-06-15, 18:08

sidekicking wrote:lars you cant abandon the 2.5 gallon projet....you need to find something for it ASAP
maybe ice cream tank????

Ditto, dont scrap it. It will be a cool little planted tank for some little fish. Hey, my cardinalis killi would do just fine in there.
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Post  sandnuka 2010-06-15, 20:49

DUDE! you have to finish the foam!!!! just make it for like a couple tiny dwarf cichlids, or even....... I cant believe Im gonna say it....... tetra's. But the foam/concrete must be finished and home to fish! IT WILL BE SWEEEEET
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Post  Guest 2010-06-15, 21:15

i agree, just stick with what you can acomplish, saltwater is a hard hobby. dont add stuff other than some easy corals till the tank is done cycling. please, just trust me with that. lol the 2.5gallon shoulc be finished. if not ill take it LOL! ill finish it for you and give it back if you supply me with some corals on thursday Razz

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Post  lars on 2010-06-16, 02:11

OH!! Guys im abandoning the seahorses, Im gonna make the 2.5 an extremely small Mizube tank.

O: lilfishie your killies would fit in there?

lol, I always cycle ALL my tanks, my saltwater makes me paranoid about adding stuff, had it running almost 2.5 months before fish.

DUDDEEEEEEEEE, maybe ill make the 2.5 a tinsey tiney frag tank, I think it would be bitchin to get some polyps growing on the walls when its all cemented up
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Post  Guest 2010-06-16, 14:13

a 2.5 is WAY to unstable for frags, if you HAD to have a saltwater tank in there i would go a kenya tree (one of the hardiest corals every) and maybe a cleaner shrimp. pretty much, i wouldnt do it.

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Post  lilfishie 2010-06-16, 14:24

Well as long as the lighting will support coral and the water quality is stable for coral, you can do a reef tank in at 2.5.

Heres a 2gal pico tank
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I've seen a 1 gal reef tank with live shrimp that probably only had a half gal of water in it. If I can find the thread, I'll post it.
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Post  lars on 2010-06-16, 16:33

Yeah Ive seen the pico tanks, how much light would you reccomend? Or i guess I could look it up myself.

I wouldnt put fish in it though, just be a very tiny coral tank.
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Post  lars on 2010-06-16, 19:20

I found a tiny light for a pico tank, 13 watts, half blue half white 15$

is 13 watts not enough light for a 2.5?
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Post  lilfishie 2010-06-16, 23:49

13 watts should be just fine.
Take a look at this thread. It a 9"x9"x9" cube
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Post  lars on 2010-06-16, 23:58

oahhh, thank you. Gonna read it fosho
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Post  lars on 2010-06-17, 03:20

Im gonna hold off on the 2.5 and make my now old 10 gallon saltwater a frag tank. Pickin up some more coral tomorrow, mushrooms and maybe some other things, and hopefully a sea anemone in the next 2 weeks.
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Post  lars on 2010-06-17, 16:20

Aquascaped the 20 and both clowns are now in it. LOVE the new space they have

10 gallon is gonna be the new frag tank, its only inhabtatn will be the stupid hermit crab and maybe a fish
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Post  aaronfeeney 2010-06-17, 23:42

That still leaves the 2.5 open for seahorses......
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Post  lars on 2010-06-18, 00:18

stoppp ittttttttt
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Post  icer711 2010-06-18, 00:21

just get a bigger tank and devote 2.5 gl to the horses Wink
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Post  sidekicking 2010-06-18, 00:24

lars the people have spoken and THEY want seahorses
so dont give up
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Post  lars on 2010-06-18, 00:52

K FINE.

Ill make the 10 a frag and seahorse tank

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Post  icer711 2010-06-18, 00:54

i was thinking much bigger so you don't have to fight the water parameters so much Wink
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Post  lars on 2010-06-18, 01:04

lol not those 90,000 gallon tanks you send me!!
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Post  lars on 2010-06-18, 01:04

CORAL PICS!
Monti cap (orange) and green birdsnest!
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MOVIN IN FOR THE KILL
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10$ frag piece. green striped mushroom (MY FAVORITE CORAL EVERRRR)
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Pretty lil guy that lorrie gave me
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Post  aaronfeeney 2010-06-18, 01:34

nice lookin stuff
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Post  lars on 2010-06-18, 01:44

MORE CORAL PICS

Nother coral that lorrie gave me (:, you rock lorrie. Most resilient guy in the tank
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Green birdsnest
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whole 10 gal tank
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clowns enjoying the new 20 gallon
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Post  lars on 2010-06-18, 01:52

PESKY HERMIT CRAB with his corall Smile

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Nother zoa frag lorrie gave me, went from only 2-3 opening up to ALL of them opening, and now there are like 6 new heads!! Very Happy
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KENYA TREESSS Got smooshed on the way home but now they are shrinking back down and lifting up into the water!! Post a new pic of them tomorrow
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Post  sidekicking 2010-06-18, 02:15

tanks is looking great
but whats with the bottle??
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Post  lars on 2010-06-18, 02:18

i found itttt, at da beachhhhh

// Im hoping some coral or zoo or polyp will blanket it, make it look really cool
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Post  regan24 2010-06-18, 03:05

Neiiiiggghhhhhhhhhhglurgglurgneighghghhghglurg

^ That's the seahorsies calling.

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Post  Guest 2010-06-19, 12:33

LOL! hey those are my corals! Razz liking the tank, although the kenyas look like a pile of poo lol. add some more rock and place some more stuff on the rocks!

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Post  Guest 2010-06-19, 12:34

forgot to post this, they wont stick to the bottle because its glass, the only thing ive seen stick to glass is anemones and star polyps. it will get a nice purple coraline on it though

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Post  lars on 2010-06-19, 13:55

They are all healthy now, the kenya trees. All streached out and fully extended! Really pretty. But Im gonna try and put a little rack in on one corner so the hermit will stop bulldozing everything.

ooo: STAR POLYPS IT IS THEN!!
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Post  Guest 2010-06-19, 14:27

lol i got some. when they grow ill frag some for u free.

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Post  lars on 2010-06-19, 14:28

sweeetttttt. Thank you, that would be awesome!! (:
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Post  lars on 2010-06-19, 22:32

KENYA TREESS! They have fully recovered

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Post  sandnuka 2010-06-19, 23:05

Lookin great lars.... I love how many pages this post is... lol.... youve changed it up like 20 times. haha. its like your little own blog.
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Post  lars on 2010-06-20, 00:25

It is my little blog, it be my reef build thread Very Happy

The diary thing is kinda lame, looks weird. Nice and clean in the forums
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Post  lars on 2010-06-22, 02:16

A little starfish has come to life in my tank! Its body is about 1/4th an inch, and he has no legs!!! But they starting to grow back, and hes moving realy fast with his newly grown tentacles! He already moved probably 2 feet, and thats when I noticed him.

Both the clowns attacked him at first but now they have lost interest.
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Post  sidekicking 2010-06-22, 03:01

lars post some pics of this zombie starfish or even better a video
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Post  lars on 2010-06-22, 03:04

lol it would just be a blur of a starfish!

Ill see ifI can steal moms camera
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Post  lilfishie 2010-06-22, 10:18

It is more than likely an Asterina Starfish.
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Post  lars on 2010-06-22, 22:24

That looks alot like it. Its got red and blue.

I GOT A BUBBLE TIP ANEMONE TODAY! 35$
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Post  lars on 2010-06-23, 00:06

breaking down the 20 gal, just keeping 10 gal


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Post  lilfishie 2010-06-23, 00:18

Anemones need high light to live. they will move around until they find the place that they get what they need to live. He is not going to settle down under that bottle. He will only die there. Please let him out and let him find his spot that he feels comfortable in. If your using that light I gave you, it may not be enough lighting for him.
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Post  lars on 2010-06-23, 00:48

even if I turn it up all the way, 100 watts may not be enough? ):

If I take the bottle off him all he does is float around

// I flipped the cup trapy thing over and hes linging in it
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Post  lilfishie 2010-06-23, 01:42

If anything, turn the flow down for a while and put him in a low flow area where he can attach himself to the rock. He will then walk around the rocks looking for a good spot. If the lighting is not enought for him, he will set himself loose in the current to hopefully land somewhere with more lighting. Thats why alot of them end up in powerheads. They are not happy where they are for either lighting or water quality reasons.
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Post  lars on 2010-06-23, 01:47

ohh, okay. So its normal for them to like just float float? Because its shown no signs of even TRYING to root. I kinda held it to a small rock kfor like 30 seconds and its kinda sticking, but he slipping, and he just fell off the rock.

I dont know whats wrong with it!! Its probably bleached, but it had no foot injuries!
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Post  lilfishie 2010-06-23, 10:26

Notice the one in this first picture. The white with pink tips. This anemone is badly bleached out and sick. Once they get to this point, they usually do not survive. I got it with about 60 lbs of live rock. The previous owner couldnt find it to get it out so it came with the rock. It moved constantly. Here is a good site for amenome info. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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I moved it to my hospital tank and fed it every day table shrimp and krill and mysis. I actually nursed it back to better health. This is him 6 months later. They should look more like this. He still was not happy under pc lighting and he went on the move floating in the water column and got caught in a power head.

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Post  sandnuka 2010-06-23, 10:55

Lilfishie.... cant believe you have these pictures... and entered the kilifish pic in the POTM contest!!! lol, you just giving me a chance last time??? absolutly flippin gorgeous!

They look soooo cool bleached like the one in the first pic though :(
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Post  lilfishie 2010-06-23, 11:34

sandnuka wrote:Lilfishie.... cant believe you have these pictures... and entered the kilifish pic in the POTM contest!!! lol, you just giving me a chance last time??? absolutly flippin gorgeous!

They look soooo cool bleached like the one in the first pic though Sad

Yeah they are kindof pretty bleached out, but they are only bleached because they are sick. Not so cool. The clownfish, Frita, was a rescue too.

Anemones live on algae that grows inside them. Its actually a plankton of some kind. Its mentioned in the link I posted, I believe. The algae is fed by good lighting and good water quality continues to grow and feed the anemone. If the anemone becomes distressed it will expell the algae/plankton and then starve to death usually. If it can get the lighting it needs to rejuvinate the growth of the algae it can survive. They will realease them selves and float in the current, which usually takes them closer to the surface where they get more light.

Oh, try building your rock structure higher and see if he stays on it at the top. That is were the one is in my video.
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Post  lars on 2010-06-23, 20:10

Yeah, if that is bleached then mine is BLEACHED. Almost a flourecent green. But I think its dead. Lews had some white dots on him, prolly from trying to get in the anemone. ):

But the clown is so pretty!!
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