The dragon puffer.....

So in a whim I picked up these two from the new puyallup fish store "fish emporium"  I did some mild research and decided that they must be mine.....

I've been really happy with them so far (day 4) as they aren't lazy like all of the reviews say and they actually swim out of their cave when I come into the garage. They are currently living in my qt tank to make sure they are healthy

Video #1 day / night one in their tank with some rams horn snails


Video #2. Debunking the ambush predator thing... Came out this morning to find they had eaten all fifteen feeder guppies and the heads off of the four mollies I out in there yesterday



Both videos are 50 seconds and the front of the glass is dirty, I just cleaned it today for a new video later

Very cool Lloyd!   

The Dragon/Humpback/Palembang Puffer is actually one of the milder ones that is said to be able to at least keep with its own. This type also is a bit bigger with the possibility of getting 8". Even though this type is a bit easier going they are still predators and are surprisingly quick when it comes to taking down prey.

I wish more fishbox members would raise puffers, they are a very owner responsive fish and they do come out and beg for food.

Forgot to add that even though they require a tank to themselves it really does not have to be that large a tank for these lurkers. Some say a 20L is sufficient but with the waste they create from their diet you want some water volume too. So a 29g or 40B with some good filtration is pretty much all you need at least for a Congo, Hairy, Aroowhead or Dragon.

Very cool. Lloyd! I love that you got these little guys!

DMD123 wrote:they are a very owner responsive fish and they do come out and beg for food.

I don't know... my Fang Puffer is the laziest thing ever, I don't know if it's because I keep her full of food or not, but I've gone like 3 days without feeding her,and she just stays in one spot. LITERALLY. lol!! I might end up just selling her at some point...

Scruffy the hairy puffer sits but when he is hungry he comes out looking for food.

lloyd i really like your puffers, definitely a neat fish. nice to see them staying active as well. always wanted to give them a shot and seeing the variety all you guys are keeping definitely gives some inspiration.

Anthraxx wrote:always wanted to give them a shot and seeing the variety all you guys are keeping definitely gives some inspiration.

 

Very cute puffers!

Thanks for the kind words and I hope this really does inspire you all.

Here's a short clip from tonight for some reason they are staring upwards like im going to feed them again . Haha

How fun, enjoy those guys.

They catch on quick that food comes from above. They are such greedy little guys its so easy to overfeed.

DMD123 wrote:They catch on quick that food comes from above. They are such greedy little guys its so easy to overfeed.

Wait, wait , wait..... You can overfeed them? I thought you just kept feeding them until they looked all puffed up!?!   

I overfed once at the beginning and the poor guy sat and looked miserable for days as he was digesting. Im surprised he did not barf it up. They say to feed every other day but I feed once a day but very small portions. Today he got a small nightcrawler. These are pretty handy because you can just put them in the fridge and they keep for quite a while. I am looking for somewhere that sells the shrimp in shell with head and all but have not found them yet. I have been feeding just the raw ez peel type for now.

lloyd378 wrote:

DMD123 wrote:They catch on quick that food comes from above. They are such greedy little guys its so easy to overfeed.

Wait, wait , wait..... You can overfeed them? I thought you just kept feeding them until they looked all puffed up!?!   

Oh yeah, forgot to mention to those interested. Puffers have a very elastic stomach. When they eat sometimes the food settles in at an angle and they look very weird. Pretty gross but at the same time kind of fascinating.

PokeSephiroth wrote:Very cool. Lloyd! I love that you got these little guys!

DMD123 wrote:they are a very owner responsive fish and they do come out and beg for food.

I don't know... my Fang Puffer is the laziest thing ever, I don't know if it's because I keep her full of food or not, but I've gone like 3 days without feeding her,and she just stays in one spot. LITERALLY. lol!! I might end up just selling her at some point...

On The Puffer Forum under the Fangs it says: "Waspish disposition. Active and sociable."

waspish definition: having an irritable and unpleasant disposition

Apparently your puffer can not read.   

They're fantastic! What size tank will you ultimately house them in? Also, did the new fish shop have more puffers (of any kind) in stock? I'm definitely on the edge of jumping into the puffer pool, so to speak! I would not have put these on my list, but I may have to change my mind. I'm looking to keep more than one together, and house them comfortably in a planted/decorated 40B that is currently sitting empty in my garage.

I think my puffer is just spoile and lazy hahaha!!
Hose91, you wouldn't want to happen to buy my puffer off of me do you?

Anywho, the dragon puffer looks really neat, I kinda wish I had one now. Hahahaha.

hose91 wrote:They're fantastic!  What size tank will you ultimately house them in?  Also, did the new fish shop have more puffers (of any kind) in stock?  I'm definitely on the edge of jumping into the puffer pool, so to speak!  I would not have put these on my list, but I may have to change my mind.  I'm looking to keep more than one together, and house them comfortably in a planted/decorated 40B that is currently sitting empty in my garage.  

A 40B is a good size but it is recommended to have 40 gallons for one of these puffers. Probably would want to increase gallons a bit to deal with waste if you had more than one.
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PokeSephiroth wrote:I think my puffer is just spoile and lazy hahaha!!
Hose91, you wouldn't want to happen to buy my puffer off of me do you?

Anywho, the dragon puffer looks really neat, I kinda wish I had one now. Hahahaha.

Your puffer would be a great starter. It is a little bit smaller and would do fine in a 20 gallon tank. And I have not seen the Fangs available for sale around here, so a unique puffer that hardly anyone else would own.

House91 they had dragon puffers, as well as a couple of brackish ones but that's all I saw

The brackish are usually either Figure Eight's or Green Spotted, If they had another type.... I might even be interested

I can't remember... I will check next time. Going to probably head over today to get some snails

what kind of price and type on the snails? I may need to try that out on mine.

I can't wait to get my snail set up going so I can quit BUYING pest snails. So annoying. Once I get the bigger tank set up I am going to put some floating plants in a 5 gallon underneath his tank and add a bunch of snail and let them breed like crazy! lol

What kind of price/type on pest snails?

I was using rams horn .... Not sure but heard you could breed them in any container as long as you have an airstone in with them

I've been paying 4/$1 or 8/$1 depending upon who is in the store for the day.   They are the bladder snails. I ended up getting a few snail on plants I bought on here. Which I was totally okay with! lol So they are starting to breed in my 30 gallon. I saw last night a small cluster of eggs so I'm hoping they hatch out. Most people want to get rid of snails. I want them to breed so I have puffer food! lol This is what I am going to rely on for a food source while I'm gone on vacation for my puffer. Easy way to do it. I am going to buy a bunch this weekend and start them in a small 1 gallon tank I have some plants in growing out. Then probably buy a few more before I leave. I gotta get stuff to make Apple Pie, uhhh, alcoholic delicious knock-you-on-your-butt beverages and the pet store is close to the liquor store.

What type of price on the ramshorns? I have been using frozen raw shrimp for pretty cheap and small nightcrawlers from Walmart and the price is not too bad. Still looking for a place to find shrimp in the shell with head and all... might have to try an Asian market.

ShortyKiloGyrl wrote:I've been paying 4/$1 or 8/$1 depending upon who is in the store for the day.   They are the bladder snails.

Thanks for that info!

ShortyKiloGyrl wrote:and the pet store is close to the liquor store.

Never a good combo  

ShortyKiloGyrl wrote:and the pet store is close to the liquor store.

Never a good combo  [/quote]


Haha Luckily it's not something I visit frequently but I need some Everclear and vodka Going to be a good camping trips hehe

ShortyKiloGyrl wrote:but I need some Everclear and vodka Going to be a good camping trips hehe

Helps with roasting marshmallows if you dip them in it first?

Actually another friend is bringing marshmellows, you toast them and then fill the center with Bailey's mmmmmm I'm making (before and after category) Apple Pie Moon shine in the sky, for camping.

Sorry for the thread jack lloyd!! I apologize, it's too easy to jump topic.   

DMD123 wrote:

ShortyKiloGyrl wrote:and the pet store is close to the liquor store.

Never a good combo  

This is what makes APFP so dangerous ... the irish pub next door.

Haha, never a need to apologize! I love the discussions to matter where they take us.

Dmd I think I bought 15 snails for 3 dollars something like that. I thought they would be fine in the same tank but those dragons demolished them.... I'll keep them in a separate place now

lloyd378 wrote:Haha, never a need to apologize! I love the discussions to matter where they take us.

Dmd I think I bought 15 snails for 3 dollars something like that. I thought they would be fine in the same tank but those dragons demolished them.... I'll keep them in a separate place now

Some people get upset about thread jacking, I think most of those have weeded themselves out now. We all seem more of friends than forum acquaintances these days. I think Madness' videos are going to make that even better. It's nice having visual on tank and faces and how people do things, it just accentuates what we read amongst each other on here.

dwarfpike wrote:

DMD123 wrote:

ShortyKiloGyrl wrote:and the pet store is close to the liquor store.

Never a good combo  

This is what makes APFP so dangerous ... the irish pub next door.

Irish pub?? Where! My boyfriend is Irish and we are always looking for new places to ride the bike to on sunny days! What better of a place to head than an Irish bar!

ShortyKiloGyrl wrote:

lloyd378 wrote:Haha, never a need to apologize! I love the discussions to matter where they take us.

Dmd I think I bought 15 snails for 3 dollars something like that. I thought they would be fine in the same tank but those dragons demolished them.... I'll keep them in a separate place now

Some people get upset about thread jacking, I think most of those have weeded themselves out now. We all seem more of friends than forum acquaintances these days. I think Madness' videos are going to make that even better. It's nice having visual on tank and faces and how people do things, it just accentuates what we read amongst each other on here.

Sweet, so when are you and your boyfriend going to host madness for his next video. Haha, the pressure is on now.

And the Irish pub is right next to a place for pets in burien. Though unless your bikes have motors it may be a long ride from the coast.   

lloyd378 wrote:Dmd I think I bought 15 snails for 3 dollars something like that. I thought they would be fine in the same tank but those dragons demolished them.... I'll keep them in a separate place now

Thanks Lloyd! I might just stick with the frozen grocery store seafood for now. I am also looking for some live sand shrimp. I just need to find a bait place that has them. These should have a bit of crunch to them....

lloyd378 wrote:

ShortyKiloGyrl wrote:

lloyd378 wrote:Haha, never a need to apologize! I love the discussions to matter where they take us.

Dmd I think I bought 15 snails for 3 dollars something like that. I thought they would be fine in the same tank but those dragons demolished them.... I'll keep them in a separate place now

Some people get upset about thread jacking, I think most of those have weeded themselves out now. We all seem more of friends than forum acquaintances these days. I think Madness' videos are going to make that even better. It's nice having visual on tank and faces and how people do things, it just accentuates what we read amongst each other on here.

Sweet, so when are you and your boyfriend going to host madness for his next video.    Haha, the pressure is on now.

And the Irish pub is right next to a place for pets in burien.  Though unless your bikes have motors it may be a long ride from the coast.   

Oh man my tanks are nothing to video about! Just boring tropical community fish here. You can only talk about angelfish and tetra so much lo. Let me get them up and planted and we'll see what we can do then. They are in transformation process now.

The bike definitely has a motor. He has one of these
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ShortyKiloGyrl wrote:Oh man my tanks are nothing to video about! Just boring tropical community fish here. You can only talk about angelfish and tetra so much lo. Let me get them up and planted and we'll see what we can do then. They are in transformation process now.

Hey dont forget the puffer! Very unique fish to show off.

DMD123 wrote:

ShortyKiloGyrl wrote:Oh man my tanks are nothing to video about! Just boring tropical community fish here. You can only talk about angelfish and tetra so much lo. Let me get them up and planted and we'll see what we can do then. They are in transformation process now.

Hey dont forget the puffer! Very unique fish to show off.

lol My "dwarf" GSP? He's pretty cute. He is going to get some tank mates when I get that new set up going for him.