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Post  shua 2010-06-30, 20:41

gimme ideas its only 24'' wide so were talkin something that will be able to turn around open to all ideas but salt and hard water
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Post  Guest 2010-06-30, 23:01

FROGS!!!!

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Post  shua 2010-07-02, 00:35

name one dope ass frog i (as a pred lover) would enjoy and we will see
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Post  HALP 2010-07-02, 00:42

I'd try to get 2 pairs to share the tank. Festae on one side and a parachromis type for the other. Or a Dovii pair, it just kind of sucks to be afraid to put your hand in the tank.
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Post  Kingstature 2010-07-02, 00:46

Bowfins..... Oh that would be awesome, or Payara... Perhaps a couple peacock Bass..
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Post  shua 2010-07-02, 00:53

its not wide enough for any of them except perhaps the bowfin..... keep them coming
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Post  shua 2010-07-02, 00:58

HALP wrote:I'd try to get 2 pairs to share the tank. Festae on one side and a parachromis type for the other. Or a Dovii pair, it just kind of sucks to be afraid to put your hand in the tank.

i am leaning toward chilids but my friend re-introduced the idea of sealing the top and cutting a side to make it a ray tank...
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Post  Ashley 2010-07-02, 00:59

josh check your pms. I like the ray tank idea Smile
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Post  Mikey 2010-07-02, 01:00

Always have been a fan of barracuda, but not sure if any species could fit in that tank. They're awesome though! I think someone on here has one? Like TRD, or bassman ?? I agree with King though on the Bowfins!! Very Happy
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Post  Ashley 2010-07-02, 01:02

Yeah the tank is just long and not very wide so not much can go in there other than cichlids. (unless we found a way to flip it)
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Post  shua 2010-07-02, 01:04

i have been wanting to do a native tank anyways some lmb (large mouth bass) and some bowfin

ps thats the only refrince ill give for lmb
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Post  Mikey 2010-07-02, 01:04

Maybe you guys could fill it with a bunch of rocks and do tons of african cichlids!! That'd be awesome to see! But you guys are probably leaning towards the S. American cichlids?
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Post  shua 2010-07-02, 01:06

Ashley wrote:Yeah the tank is just long and not very wide so not much can go in there other than cichlids. (unless we found a way to flip it)

aawwww the perks to a gf in the hobby Sad
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Post  Ashley 2010-07-02, 01:08

shua wrote:
Ashley wrote:Yeah the tank is just long and not very wide so not much can go in there other than cichlids. (unless we found a way to flip it)

aawwww the perks to a gf in the hobby Sad

lol why so sad? Thats what you get for making me a fish nerd. I want all the tanks stocked with things that I like Twisted Evil hehehe

I think we weren't wanting to do the africans because they are hard water. I know nothing about cichlids anyways. Better start researching!
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Post  shua 2010-07-02, 01:10

yeah you better i like the idea of S.A cichlids or native
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Post  Ashley 2010-07-02, 01:11

shua wrote:yeah you better i like the idea of S.A cichlids or native

It's not big enough for a native! Do you know how big they get? large mouth bass and bowfins even get way too long for 2ft wide
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Post  shua 2010-07-02, 01:15

any ideas excepted,
or some kind of breeders i like the idea of free food for my turtle and other fish
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Post  shua 2010-07-02, 03:18

i think im doing datinods a hole ish load of them
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Post  Doza 2010-07-02, 05:09

If you want a smaller sized native go with Pumpkinseed sunfish... BEAUTIFUL fish and stay a relatively small fish.. I plan on getting some again soon...[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

They dont normally get bigger than 8inches and would love plants and say malaysian driftwood...
I know where to go as well.. Just need a pole power bait and some parasite treatment... JK.. Wink [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Post  shua 2010-07-02, 06:33

i just did a google search and saw a eel like fish and it struck a underlying cord...... an electric tank such as a electric eel and catfish any one got any ideas on the fish????...
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Post  shua 2010-07-02, 06:33

Doza wrote:If you want a smaller sized native go with Pumpkinseed sunfish... BEAUTIFUL fish and stay a relatively small fish.. I plan on getting some again soon...[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

They dont normally get bigger than 8inches and would love plants and say malaysian driftwood...
I know where to go as well.. Just need a pole power bait and some parasite treatment... JK.. Wink [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

but i love the fish and if i go native i must have one... are they around here @ all??????

and one of these
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Post  hbluehunter 2010-07-02, 09:30

If it were me i'd do a bunch of Dats, grow them out for a 6 months or so and then get a Black aro.. Gotta love that no drop eye. Cool
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Post  IceBerg 2010-07-02, 09:36

Doza wrote:but i love the fish and if i go native i must have one... are they around here @ all??????

Yes, pumpkinseeds are very common in Washington. Even more common than their cousin the bluegill. I recently stocked my 7 acre pond with a bunch of bluegills and pumpkinseeds. They are a really beautiful fish, and make a great forage fish for the largemouth bass. Very Happy
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Post  hbluehunter 2010-07-02, 10:45

Damn, 7 acre pond ?? That's what i'm talking about !! Man i'd be stocking Bowfins and all kinds of thuff in there.. Smile
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Post  Aquarium Co-Op 2010-07-02, 12:23

What are the dimensions of the tank? I understand it's 24 inches wide. 8 or 10 ft long? how high? If it was me, I'd make sure I was utilizing the tank. For instance, I wouldnt keep a colony of dwarf africans in there, but maybe I would do a much larger colony of Haps. Also, with that much water, I tend to keep something that doesnt need water doctoring. So if you have 7.0, i'd shy away from africans all together.
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Post  Ashley 2010-07-02, 13:56

Cory wrote:What are the dimensions of the tank? I understand it's 24 inches wide. 8 or 10 ft long? how high? If it was me, I'd make sure I was utilizing the tank. For instance, I wouldnt keep a colony of dwarf africans in there, but maybe I would do a much larger colony of Haps. Also, with that much water, I tend to keep something that doesnt need water doctoring. So if you have 7.0, i'd shy away from africans all together.

The tank is 10ft long. I forget how tall it is.
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Post  shua 2010-07-02, 14:16

im here, and here are the dimensions 120 x 22 x 36.5
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Post  sandnuka 2010-07-02, 16:10

Well, I am a huge african fan.... so you know what I would stock in there.... just make it a tanganyikan tank... would be AWESOME! but, i know you guys like big fish, and really the only S american cichlids I am a huge fan of are the midas, and red terror. Smile
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Post  shua 2010-07-02, 16:35

i love red terrors a nd green i was also thinking about a big as5 wolf fish but i feel that might be a waste of water
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Post  sandnuka 2010-07-02, 17:08

Ok.... I think the wolf cichlid is not very attractive, although being one of the most aggressive FW fish out there, pretty cool to watch..... Posted some pictures of the fish you were considering... and one of a lake tang tank... I LOVE LAKE TANGANYIKA!

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Post  Ashley 2010-07-02, 17:25

What are the colorful ones in the middle picture? I really like those guys. Are they african or SA? I hate the frontosas though. They are god awful lol no offence. I know you guys like em
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Post  Bassman42 2010-07-02, 17:29

Ex-Cichlasoma Festea or Red Terror, Females are usally Red with Black Bars and Males are usally Gold with Blue Spotting in the fins.
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Post  hbluehunter 2010-07-02, 17:30

Those are Festae aka Red Terror's.. The very colorful ones with all the red are the females..

LOL.. you beat me Bassman..
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Post  shua 2010-07-02, 17:44

never fontosia i really dont see the interest in them no offense thanks for the idea though
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Post  Doza 2010-07-02, 17:48

Ive never seen anywhere in Wa for pumpkinseeds... Where at eastern washington??

I know of a killer spot in oregon... get like 20 2inchers in no time..
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Post  rattle1972 2010-07-02, 18:14

jaguar, festae, umbee

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Post  IceBerg 2010-07-02, 19:29

Doza wrote:Ive never seen anywhere in Wa for pumpkinseeds... Where at eastern washington??

I know of a killer spot in oregon... get like 20 2inchers in no time..

My neighbors lake is full of them! Pretty much all the body of waters that have a lot of vegetation should have pumpkinseeds, bluegill, crappie, or rock bass. Some more than others, of course. Very Happy
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Post  lars on 2010-07-02, 20:06

Nobody takes me seriously.

9,000 Neon Tetras. DONE. BEST TANK E\/ER
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Post  sandnuka 2010-07-02, 20:09

Ashley wrote:What are the colorful ones in the middle picture? I really like those guys. Are they african or SA? I hate the frontosas though. They are god awful lol no offence. I know you guys like em

Ok.... I know people either LOVE fronts, or HATE them..... but out of the three pictures.... you honestly think the wolf cichlid in the first pic is better lookin than the front??? seriously? I just dont see it, its sooooo hidious to me, I see why people like there personality, but ugh. lol

and yeah, the red terror, defintly my top 3 fav. SA cichlid Wink

lars - hell of an idea on the neon tetras.
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Post  shua 2010-07-02, 21:41

wolfs have that eiary feeling to them (not sure on eiarys spelling hope you guys get that)
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Post  hbluehun 2010-07-02, 22:04

The only bad thing with Dovi, Umbie and other super aggressive fish is you end up with one fish or a pair and that's it.. But some people like that.

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Post  shua 2010-07-03, 00:51

not in a 400 gal i wouldnt what a waste im sure something will strike a cord
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Post  Bassman42 2010-07-03, 14:33

Then get one Awesome Male Umbie, I have seen them live with other big cichlids. If you like cichlids, You can get a bunch of cool Parachromis Types that don't get as big as the Dovii like a Jaguar, Red Tiger Motaguensis, Fedlichstalli, Losellie. All these fish are super awesome looking, they are pretty aggissivie, and can all live together. Other C/A Cichlids look cool are the Carpintis, Islatham, Lysoni, Red Devil Types ( bunch of different kinds of Amp.'s) there are so many good one it's hard to say what I even do if I had to re-stock. All these fish can live together most of them wont get over 15", perfect for a 2' wide tank!
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Post  shua 2010-07-03, 15:05

i effin love Umbie too good idea, how would that do with some dats
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Post  rattle1972 2010-07-03, 15:12

i think if you stick with all males you will be fine. putting a female festae in with a bunch of big males would be like putting 10 of us guys in a room then throwing in jenna jameson... i have a feeling there would start to be some fighting!!!!!

but then what do i know
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Post  Bassman42 2010-07-03, 16:01

With enough hiding places for The Dats it could be ok, But the Umbies grow a lot faster than the Dats. I would get the Dats a lot bigger than the Umbies if I were going that route.
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Post  hbluehunter 2010-07-03, 16:29

I agree with bassman, Dats grow so slow you'd have to buy them like a year or so before other aggressive fish because they'd get out grown quickly..
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Post  shua 2010-07-03, 16:33

true but i got two now one split might i add but yeah i see the problem
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Post  Bassman42 2010-07-05, 11:58

Do you have any new ideas for your Monster Tank Project yet?
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Post  shua 2010-07-05, 12:05

a few i just got turned down on a pond in my buddys yard lol
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