Dry Start Method (DSM) tanks.
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Dry Start Method (DSM) tanks.
BillHN 2013-09-26, 20:43
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So Top left. Tank. I bought for 10$.
It's got a Juniper Bonsai, and HC | Glosso | Hairgrass.
Bottom Right Bowl. Free.
Marsilea Minuta | Glosso | Hairgrass | HC |.
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(glosso was ehhhhh) ehhehehe.... so I had to revive it. :]
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Now updated pictures.
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Now for the bowl:
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So Top left. Tank. I bought for 10$.
It's got a Juniper Bonsai, and HC | Glosso | Hairgrass.
Bottom Right Bowl. Free.
Marsilea Minuta | Glosso | Hairgrass | HC |.
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(glosso was ehhhhh) ehhehehe.... so I had to revive it. :]
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Now updated pictures.
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Now for the bowl:
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Re: Dry Start Method (DSM) tanks.
fishNAbowl 2013-09-26, 21:45
These are super BillHN. Totally dig the bonsai.
What is "DSM tanks"?
What is "DSM tanks"?
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pbmax 2013-09-26, 22:44
That's a load of crap and you know it. Most of it was in good shape and I gave you a TON of itBillHN wrote:
(glosso was ehhhhh) ehhehehe.... so I had to revive it. :]
Besides which, you had more mystery snails than you knew what to do with 
Dry Start Method. You set the tank up as a terrarium - high humidity emersed with daily misting. It gives the plants a chance to get established more quickly in a CO2-abundant environment before submersing.fishNAbowl wrote:
What is "DSM tanks"?
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BillHN 2013-09-26, 23:03
pbmax wrote:I almost forgot - looking good!
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fishNAbowl 2013-09-26, 23:28
So when u fill the tank up with water does your plants die back or "melt"?
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pbmax 2013-09-26, 23:43
I have limited experience with this:
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But so far, over a month after filling, I haven't had any melt at all in mine. Even the crypts seem to be fine, which is a bit surprising.
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But so far, over a month after filling, I haven't had any melt at all in mine. Even the crypts seem to be fine, which is a bit surprising.
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fishNAbowl 2013-09-26, 23:52
Wow.pbmax wrote:I have limited experience with this:
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But so far, over a month after filling, I haven't had any melt at all in mine. Even the crypts seem to be fine, which is a bit surprising.
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fishNAbowl 2013-09-26, 23:53
Planning on starting another small system soon. Think I will try this...
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pbmax 2013-09-27, 00:06
It was a kick watching my tank grow BillHN's tank will look nicer than mine when it's ready to be filled (ugly cubefilter kind of spoils the mood). I think everyone should try it.
The glosso I gave BillHN was grown emersed and unfortunately crashed once the soil ran out of nutrients. It came from here:
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I've added some potassium nitrate + monopotassium phosphate solution to the soil along with some plantex csm+b since I ripped a big chunk out for Bill (the part that was still good) and it's starting to come back around. So use something GOOD for a DSM tank like aquasoil or mineralized soil so it doesn't run out like my simple topsoil did.
BillHN's tank will look nicer than mine when it's ready to be filled (ugly cubefilter kind of spoils the mood). I think everyone should try it. The glosso I gave BillHN was grown emersed and unfortunately crashed once the soil ran out of nutrients. It came from here:
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I've added some potassium nitrate + monopotassium phosphate solution to the soil along with some plantex csm+b since I ripped a big chunk out for Bill (the part that was still good) and it's starting to come back around. So use something GOOD for a DSM tank like aquasoil or mineralized soil so it doesn't run out like my simple topsoil did.
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fishNAbowl 2013-09-27, 00:41
Understood!pbmax wrote:It was a kick watching my tank grow
The glosso I gave BillHN was grown emersed and unfortunately crashed once the soil ran out of nutrients. It came from here:
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I've added some potassium nitrate + monopotassium phosphate solution to the soil along with some plantex csm+b since I ripped a big chunk out for Bill (the part that was still good) and it's starting to come back around. So use something GOOD for a DSM tank like aquasoil or mineralized soil so it doesn't run out like my simple topsoil did.
I experimented by mixing fluorite sand in a dirtied bowl. I do not know what the shelf life is to the dirt (potting soil) we use. It varies from what I read. So I was thinking to mix with fluorite, fish/ invertebrate waste would maintain the soils fertility.
So if you start a tank dry - one could inject ferts into the soil for an added boost? Or would this be over kill?
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BillHN 2013-09-27, 06:07
Gonna be honest guys. I fell asleep soooo seeing this was like O_O?
Yeah pbmax gave me the glosso
And the ferts he added to his glosso terrarium started reviving the plants really fast!
And I didn't have too many problems with my plants melting when I refilled my tanks.
Idk bout injecting ferts into soil, all I did was use amazonia 2 for the high clarity 10 dorrah tank.
And the fish bowl was a mix of different stuff from: Fluval Ebi , Safe-T-Sorb , Flourite , and amazonia 2.
Yeah pbmax gave me the glosso
And the ferts he added to his glosso terrarium started reviving the plants really fast!
And I didn't have too many problems with my plants melting when I refilled my tanks.
Idk bout injecting ferts into soil, all I did was use amazonia 2 for the high clarity 10 dorrah tank.
And the fish bowl was a mix of different stuff from: Fluval Ebi , Safe-T-Sorb , Flourite , and amazonia 2.
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pbmax 2013-09-27, 12:59
I would start out with no supplemental ferts, personally. The soil will have enough nutrients to last for a while in the beginning. If you start seeing indications of nutrient deficiency (yellow leaves, holes, etc.) then you might consider it. Too many nutrients is a bad thing.fishNAbowl wrote:
So if you start a tank dry - one could inject ferts into the soil for an added boost? Or would this be over kill?
I'm not an expert by any means, this is just my experience thus far. The glosso terrarium is an ongoing experiment.
I have no idea how often I should be adding supplemental ferts, so I'm starting out slow.I do have glass to make more terrariums and I intend to get my emersed grow setup going again this fall / winter.
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pbmax 2013-10-16, 23:05
Sucky 
Mine in the terrarium is slowing down again too. It's a finicky plant, that's for sure. Are you misting it at all?
Mine in the terrarium is slowing down again too. It's a finicky plant, that's for sure. Are you misting it at all?
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BillHN 2013-10-17, 00:06
Yeah daily mistings. It just died but my hc and hair grass are doing great
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pbmax 2013-10-17, 00:21
Hmm, mine didn't seem to care much about whether I misted or not either. Go figure?
I need to add some hair grass to my emersed tub. Got any fancy stem plants I can snag bits of, by chance?
I need to add some hair grass to my emersed tub. Got any fancy stem plants I can snag bits of, by chance?
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BillHN 2013-10-17, 00:23
Yep. Trade you for any creeping jennies? XD
Got stargrass?
Got stargrass?
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pbmax 2013-10-17, 00:33
I do have some creeping jenny, as a matter of fact. 
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