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Post  shua 2011-05-05, 04:45

i got him for a good deal lets just say me and kevin get along pretty well his brother at aquerist world in wight center was selling them for 125 and i got mine for a good deal
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Post  sidekicking 2011-05-05, 04:52

I could be wrong but your yellow cichlid looks a Maylandia crabro and the blue one looks like a pseudotropheus demasoni both mbuna for sure
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Post  thefishdaddy 2011-05-05, 04:53

oh well thats not as much as i thought they would be due to how rare they are when it comes to lfs but imight have to see if my buddies dad can import one for me lol im workin on getting a 210 gal tank hopefully next week well see if the guy flakes how much to peacock basses run for typically and last question can i have a dovi in a tank with anything else lol
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Post  thefishdaddy 2011-05-05, 04:55

thank you side i was looking for names because i need to find them a new home i think lol i think i need to rehome my jd those two cichlids and couple otherfish might try to see about getting rid of 1 oscar if not both they are pigs not letting my arowana eat to much
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Post  Betty 2011-05-05, 10:12

Your first African pictured is some sort of Melanochromis, possibly interruptus, but I've seen other blue and black Melanochromis species with similar markings that are often mislabeled and sometimes hybrids.

I would say the second one, yellow with some blue, is a Metriaclima lombardoi, also known as Kenyi. It looks like a transforming male.
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Post  Madness 2011-05-05, 11:36

To answer your ? about the Dovi. The answer is yes and no. Dovi are smart and they are predators. I have heard some serious horror stories of dovi at 4-5" taking out large cichlids twice their size. My breeding pair of dovi, (male 16", female 11") share their tank with a convict and a 15" pleco. And they have fry right now. I also had 3 dovi ranging from 3" to 5" in with my large cichlids and they minded their own business. In fact my smaller female grammode and loisellei would constantly pick fights with the dovi and mess them up. I have recently removed the dovi and placed them in a diff tank, just in case they start going off.

But I really think that it is how you raise them. My dovi have all shared a community tank since each fish was 1" big.
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Post  thefishdaddy 2011-05-05, 13:23

thank you very much betty and thanks mad because i was looking at some vids of them on yt and i saw too many vids of dovi vs others lol i just like how they look lol are jaguar cichlids as aggressive?
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Post  Mikey 2011-05-05, 15:32

Betty wrote:Your first African pictured is some sort of Melanochromis, possibly interruptus, but I've seen other blue and black Melanochromis species with similar markings that are often mislabeled and sometimes hybrids.

I would say the second one, yellow with some blue, is a Metriaclima lombardoi, also known as Kenyi. It looks like a transforming male.

I agree that the blue one is some kind of Melanochromis, but I think it's most likely a M. cyanerhabdos (Maingano) or a Johanni. There's a possibility that it may be a hybrid. The yellow one you're spot on Betty. A male Kenyi Smile
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Post  thefishdaddy 2011-05-05, 17:35

wow you guys know alot about them thank you very much i was wondering tho like almost all african cichlids i see have this little yellow dot on there tail or the fin right under it what is it just a marking that all have or something?
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Post  Betty 2011-05-05, 18:30

That dot, or in some cases, many dots, are called egg spots. A lot of people think it's a way of determining gender, but males as well as females can have them. One of the reasons for them being there might be for spawning purposes. When a pair are doing their spawning "dance", the spots mimic the actual eggs. I remember reading somewhere that females prefer the males with more egg spots and produce more eggs with them. Very Happy
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Post  Spyral 2011-05-05, 18:34

It's called an egg spot. It's for mating purposes in mouth brooders. During spawning, the female lays her eggs down on say a flat rock and the male comes over and fertilizes them. The female then picks them up with her mouth. The spot is meant to mimic an egg so the female will try to pick up the spot on his fin, thinking it is an egg. This way, she gets a mouth load of fish juice and the eggs get fertilized.

If you ever see Africans spawn (mouth brooders) they kind of swim in circles with their heads near each others sexual organs and they kind of shake.

That is fish sex.
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Post  Spyral 2011-05-05, 18:35

hah hah, just saw Betty responded too..we know fish sex here.
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Post  Betty 2011-05-05, 18:39

Spyral, I'm glad you described the fish juice, etc. I left that part out . lol!
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Post  sidekicking 2011-05-05, 18:57

fish sex 101 FTW!!! LOL
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Post  Madness 2011-05-05, 21:30

Very nice Spyral. Couldnt have said it better myself.

2 things: Jags are aggressive, and can be very agg., but not to the extent of the Dovi. But really, all cichlids are and can be very aggressive.
You have, in my opinion, these are a few of the most aggressive:
Dovi,
Jag
Festae
Red Devil
Midas
Red Tiger Mota
Grammode
Umbee ( mainly because of their enormous size)
Buttikopherii sp.. Smile
Beani
Istlanum
Convicts (for their size, if a convict was to grow to 12+", I believe it would thrash anything)

Not in any particular order. I own every single one of these, and they do well together. They are not all together, but I pick and choose who lives together.

Second thing. I CAN NOT stress this enough. DO NOT USE WARM WATER FROM YOUR FAUCET TO FILL YOUR TANKS. Smile I learned the hard way. You H2O tank is full of poisonous metals that will cause all kinds of issues with your fish. Always do cold water changes. If you must add warm water, then use a heater for a few hours before you add it.
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Post  gobluecichlids 2011-05-05, 22:31

that blue male african is a male psuedotropheus msobo deep

Here's a pic of mine I had (wild male), the females are yellow.
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Post  thefishdaddy 2011-05-05, 23:25

wow this must be the craziest fish fact i have learned soo far lol i need to get my fish game up lol i know alot but not enough to satisfy lol but thank once again madness saved mefrom doing that i ended up going to midway and picked up a 300watt for only 15 bucks lol i was like sheesh everywhere else wants 30+$ but ok ill have to look into just getting maybe a baby dovi and see if i cant raise him to be semi aggressive i just dont want him to mess with my new arowana mainly my jd has been trying to nip at him/her so i keep having to give him a time out and i think my jd took a little nibble out of my buddies oscar!!!! just saw it today so i think he might have to go =( we will see but thank you everyone for the answer to that question it has been bugging me for a while
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Post  GilbertonFisher 2011-05-05, 23:37

madness wrote:
Second thing. I CAN NOT stress this enough. DO NOT USE WARM WATER FROM YOUR FAUCET TO FILL YOUR TANKS. Smile I learned the hard way. You H2O tank is full of poisonous metals that will cause all kinds of issues with your fish. Always do cold water changes. If you must add warm water, then use a heater for a few hours before you add it.

I never even thought about that!! Good thing to bring up.

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Post  thefishdaddy 2011-05-05, 23:44

yea saved me alot of money on fish there lol
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Post  Madness 2011-05-06, 01:16

I had several high dollar fish get hole in the head. Thats how I learned it. I had a water guy come out and test everything. He was the one that told me that the H2O tank was probably the reason. After several diff tests, and countless hours of research. Lets just say now, "NO MORE HITH!!!!! cheers punk Spot On beerchug
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Post  thefishdaddy 2011-05-06, 03:46

wow that is crazy i didnt know that what so ever thank you once again your a lives saver lol for me and the fish lol
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Post  shua 2011-05-06, 04:44

thefishdaddy wrote:oh well thats not as much as i thought they would be due to how rare they are when it comes to lfs but imight have to see if my buddies dad can import one for me lol im workin on getting a 210 gal tank hopefully next week well see if the guy flakes how much to peacock basses run for typically and last question can i have a dovi in a tank with anything else lol

a 210 is only suitable for a pbass for a short while they get good sized there are a few down at aqueristworld that are well over three feet. but back to the question they jump from 35$ @2" to 1000$ even though i have not seen them go for a G for a while but heres a link om all the different kinds to check out [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Post  thefishdaddy 2011-05-06, 14:16

wow i had no clue they could get that big i was thinkin maybe a foot at that...lol i guess i need a bigger tank like A 450+gal if i want killers lol but that thread helpedalot too thank you i think ill just see if i cant find a different fish of interest and ask about it
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Post  Pleco_Party 2011-05-11, 21:54

thefishdaddy wrote:wow this must be the craziest fish fact i have learned soo far lol i need to get my fish game up lol i know alot but not enough to satisfy lol but thank once again madness saved mefrom doing that i ended up going to midway and picked up a 300watt for only 15 bucks lol i was like sheesh everywhere else wants 30+$

Yea i get all of my heaters from Midway, They are the cheapest in town.

And "fish juice", I hear that's a good source of Omega-3 fatty acids. lol!
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