Umbee

Has anyone on here had personal experience with them? I would love to learn more about them, i heard they are only rivaled by the Dovii as far as attitude and size. But it seems that the umbee have better color throughout there life? Anyway just searching the web is all.

i have 6 umbees in all. 1 is a female about 4-5 inches. i have had her about 6 months. she isnt very aggressive but very territorial. she has her spot and leaves everone alone if they stay out of her spot. she never goes and chases others like my bigger festae will. but if they come into her area then she will try and destroy them, lol.

the other 5 are pretty much babies. i got them 2 months ago. they were pretty cool at first. they are starting to get very aggressive. i had them in a tank with 4 managuense, and 2 atromaculatas. had to move the 4 jags because they were getting aggressive, so i went and got 5 labridens to replace them,, the umbees killed two of them right away, 3 are being tolerated for now. then i went and got 3 cuban cichlids. (witch i have always heard to be aggressive). one lasted about a hour. the other one abotu 2 hours. and the 3rd about 2 days. i have given up on putting anything else in there...

the atro's i feel are safe. when i got them, they were taking down peackock bass twice there size in the LFS. i think they can hold there own...

i have heard incredibel stories about how aggressive they are when they get to be adults. my plan is to have a nice pair alone to themselfs in a large tank, maybe with a catfish or two. the males (next to the female festae) are the most stunning cichlid i have ever seen in my opinion.

Hey thanks for the info! You wouldnt happen to have any pics posted here that you could link me to, do you? I would like to see how they look. Anyway thanks again, i appreciate it.

mine are all so small, they have not taken on any colors except the little blue freckles. i will try and get some pics when i go back to work on friday. or if you are ever in the burien area, swing into a mark of the vampire tattoo and take a look, fish people are always welcome to come shoot the shit about fish!!!

as for now. you can always do a search for quapotemel on youtube. this guy has some rediculous big central and south american cichlids. his festae spawning video has some amazing shots of his large male umbee. be sure to listen to them, the guy has some really good things to say.

Much appreciated, i will take a look now. And if i ever am up that way i will def stop by, maybe get my Island tribal ink work done around my forearm

I've been raising umbee for ten years now and have yet to find a better cichlid friend. I go By (Jazz) I live in The Bay area and come to Washington all the time. Im here now but will be gone in a month. I have beautiful male and female umbees right now in Auburn. I Keep my male alive in sanfrancisco with beef heart especially to bring out this beautiful color. Im selling fry fro 20bucks 510-715-4344

ya a place for pets has them for half that price. are you the one trying to sale a male for 1200?????

$1200 for a male Umbee? $20 for fry? I didn't know they were that expensive!

Spyral wrote:$1200 for a male Umbee? $20 for fry? I didn't know they were that expensive!

they are not! rapps is selling them for 10 dollars or 8 if you buy 6.
and a place for pets has them i believe for 10.99

Thanks for the headsup rattle1972, I just want to say, and I MEAN this. Real Always Recognizes Real. If i need to explain that, it's beyond you.

He knows the real Do You have one that looks like this? I have fry fro this 20"Male.[img][/img][img][/img][img][/img]

I know you guy's haven't s een the real deal yet talkin like that. if anyone wants to see a real Wild columbian Umbriferus I'll send you pics of my 21" male king. email me: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].
There worth every penny.

Why don't you register on the site? No one is going to trust you or even take you serious if you aren't even willing to register on the site. You can tell me they were touched by the hand of God himself, but until you have enough faith to register on the site, I am going to look at EVERYTHING you do as suspect and straight up shady!

Spyral wrote:Why don't you register on the site? No one is going to trust you or even take you serious if you aren't even willing to register on the site. You can tell me they were touched by the hand of God himself, but until you have enough faith to register on the site, I am going to look at EVERYTHING you do as suspect and straight up shady!

ah, that's God Herself

Clogstonian wrote:ah, that's God Herself

That depends on what kind of garbage was force fed to you as a kid.

Spyral wrote:

Clogstonian wrote:ah, that's God Herself

That depends on what kind of garbage was force fed to you as a kid.

now you're speaking my language, I just didn't to go overboard and too far off thread:twisted:

Long Live Christopher Hitchens . . . he just needs a political awakening

im so pretty aren't I. I sold this umbee to a guy for 1200.00 like amonth ago. Im not looking for creditability form you all. The proof is in my product. I own four big males one big female and 40fry. Im the guy on craigslist selling fry to people who have know knowledge of this cichlid. This is the New band wagon. It's your move!

fatumbee1 wrote:im so pretty aren't I. I sold this umbee to a guy for 1200.00 like amonth ago. Im not looking for creditability form you all. The proof is in my product. I own four big males one big female and 40fry. Im the guy on craigslist selling fry to people who have know knowledge of this cichlid. This is the New band wagon. It's your move!

That is a pretty fish, the one in your avatar but i smell a SCAM! I'm not paying no $1,200 for that thing! . I'm sure you would be asking for the money upfront first right? of course! lol

Dunno man, I am not a fan of the Umbee's. I certainly wouldn't pay that for one. I have seen some nice ones from someone here in WA that make the one you had video of look kind of lacking. GuapoteMel's fish are pretty much the nices Umbee's I have ever seen.

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Everyone I've spoken with has know idea how to tell the umbee fry apart. They all sport the same costume so it's next to impossible unless thier kept in a species tank. The males will sport stripes and females will sport a spot. Male the female ratio is about 6:to:1.six or seven females to one male. Males are very scarce. Females seem to get bigger faster at first. Thats probably why everybody gets plain looking females.

Every thing is a scam when it comes to merchandise. A true merchant knows how to set a good resonable price. It goes along with availability of the product. When things are hard to find the price will go up. That's basic supply and demand economics. Someone out there understands the real when they see it. Im knee deep in this game since 1995. I've seen everything come by me and have never been more moved than when I seen a "12"male Umbee go by. Thats on awsome fish. Why don't i see more of them I said? The answer is very complex. Very rare in distrabution, they grow very large. There not tolerant of tank mates. I've seen females that are not very attractive. That's what make them a specialty item. either your into them or your not. Im gonna be here for awhile. Im not out to scam any of you poor souls. I want to popularise these great beasts of the aquatic industry. There worth keeping alive until adult hood cause their forever changing colors. You lames dont have to worry about this fish. He's gone. I got other fish to bop you with. Halla!

Your better off getting guaranteed High Quality from Rapps. I think "A place for Pets" orders from Rapps occasionally. Maybe the next time they order, ask to get some umbee.

Rapps has F1s: $10 each or 6@$8. Rapps actually catches the fish himself and imports it back to the states. Check out his site and community marketplace on MonsterFishKeepers.

Here's Rapps Umbee male that generated his F1s. It's also for sale (I bet not $1200)

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a place for pets will not sell rapps fish for the same price they buy for though will they??? I know midway wouldnt... I had them put in a special order for some tropheus i know they paid 10 dollars a piece for, they charged me 20 bucks a piece.... I guess I didnt have to worry about shippin, etc.

I dont see a problem payin 20 bucks a piece at a retail shop, but a breeders price should be cheaper I guess..... But, look at a few people tryin to sell flowerhorn fry for 50 dollars each?? right?

glad someone is trying to spread popularity for the umbee back... even though it is overpriced... and i would never pay 1200 for a single fish wild caught or not.... thats just my two cents.

whats up jazz its bobby , yeah theres some haters out here ... some cool some not so ..... ill be getting a couple of the umbees from you as soon as i get the 310 all set up ... i already have 4 peacock bass that r 3 inchers ready to go in it ...call me u got the #

Haiting is a way of life for some. I don't care if Jeff Rapps jumped in the river and picked them his self Some body has to be that guy! Im the second or third or fouthhand man.The product is still the same.

That is one amazing Umbee!
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I am in the market for a nice large tank for a pair of Umbees.

I have a 7" male F1 available. Great attitude.

I should just get that umbee from you and let him grow up in the 210g...

A joke!

No I dont want the umbee.

DMD123 wrote:A joke!

No I dont want the umbee.

NO, you really should.

My tank is too small, and my wife wont let me get a bigger one...

sending you pm, madness.

madness has some great fish. That will be nice if you get his umbee.

god this whole post made me laugh so hard.. no fish is worth 1,000$ and up.. unless your paying in "won" of course (korean currency 1k is like .86)

fatumbee1 wrote:Im gonna be here for awhile. Im not out to scam any of you poor souls. I want to popularise these great beasts of the aquatic industry. There worth keeping alive until adult hood cause their forever changing colors. You lames dont have to worry about this fish. He's gone. I got other fish to bop you with. Halla!

Funny how he says "Im gonna be here for awhile" and only has like 6 posts to his name. Also what a line: "Im not out to scam any of you poor souls", that is exactly what a scammer would say!

Have to agree with Anthraxx that it was laughable.

Hey, when he posted it, we all had a great laugh.

Dumb thread.... three words OVERSIZED GREEN DEMPSEY..... I'm sorry it was going to come out adventually....... umbee are not cool, at all!!!!! They are one color, just one... at leas the common dempsey or geen terrors have a second color... maybee one day madness' umbee will change my mind. But as it sits right now umbee are boring.

fish_n_vw wrote:Dumb thread.... three words OVERSIZED GREEN DEMPSEY..... I'm sorry it was going to come out adventually....... umbee are not cool, at all!!!!! They are one color, just one... at leas the common dempsey or geen terrors have a second color... maybee one day madness' umbee will change my mind. But as it sits right now umbee are boring.

oversized = cool

fish_n_vw wrote:Dumb thread.... three words OVERSIZED GREEN DEMPSEY..... I'm sorry it was going to come out adventually....... umbee are not cool, at all!!!!! They are one color, just one... at leas the common dempsey or geen terrors have a second color... maybee one day madness' umbee will change my mind. But as it sits right now umbee are boring.

you need to come see my male and youll change your mind for sure

fish_n_vw wrote:Dumb thread.... three words OVERSIZED GREEN DEMPSEY..... I'm sorry it was going to come out adventually....... umbee are not cool, at all!!!!! They are one color, just one... at leas the common dempsey or geen terrors have a second color... maybee one day madness' umbee will change my mind. But as it sits right now umbee are boring.

Way too funny!

I will take a video tomorrow of mine, it will change your mind. He is now pushing 12" and is really blue and his fins are awesome.