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Paintguy Senior Member

Join date: 2010-06-21 Age: 43 Location: Renton - Issaquah
 | Subject: Purigen bag? Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:54 pm | |
| I just got a bottle of Purigen to help my nitrates and I read that you should not use any other chemicals that produce a protective slime coat on the fish or the Purigen can go bad (toxic). In the last month I have put some Amquel in my tanks, but have since done a few water changes and I am not sure how long that stuff stays active in the water. Any input from the experienced out there?
Also do I need to use the spendy Seachem brand bag or will a normal nylon chemical bag work with the Purigen and last through a bleach cleaning? |
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Addictedtofish Lifetime Member

Join date: 2010-05-17 Age: 40 Location: Camano Island
 | Subject: Re: Purigen bag? Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:02 pm | |
| How high is your nitrates? No real reason to use chemicials. |
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Paintguy Senior Member

Join date: 2010-06-21 Age: 43 Location: Renton - Issaquah
 | Subject: Re: Purigen bag? Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:25 pm | |
| my 46 gal peacock tank seems to hit the red zone (40ppm) in about 2 weeks. I do about 3 water changes a month of 50% and have enough filtration on it for a 100 gal. Other tanks are around 25 on nitrates which I can live with. Just got a big sponge filter for it today also (to replace a small cheap one). 14 younger cichlids and 2 plecos so it is not overcrowded although I may have been overfeeding them. The do seem to be dirty fish compared to my other tanks though. |
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Addictedtofish Lifetime Member

Join date: 2010-05-17 Age: 40 Location: Camano Island
 | Subject: Re: Purigen bag? Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:36 pm | |
| All I have to say say is  about your nitrate worries, just do your water changes and maybe throw in some floating water sprite or water lettace. Those numbers are nothing mine are 60 to 100ppm and they breed in it. |
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Addictedtofish Lifetime Member

Join date: 2010-05-17 Age: 40 Location: Camano Island
 | Subject: Re: Purigen bag? Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:37 pm | |
| Conway Tropical has an adult colony of Tropheus Duboisi's and they breed in 160ppm water, and they only do WC once a month. |
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Paintguy Senior Member

Join date: 2010-06-21 Age: 43 Location: Renton - Issaquah
 | Subject: Re: Purigen bag? Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:40 pm | |
| well I've only been doing something other than community fish for the past 6 months or so, but I feel like I am not nearly as anal about water changes/purity as many on here.  |
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Addictedtofish Lifetime Member

Join date: 2010-05-17 Age: 40 Location: Camano Island
 | Subject: Re: Purigen bag? Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:43 pm | |
| Trust me I still have a hard time just leaving the fish alone. Something I keep getting preached too about, just do your WC and dont waist your time on salt(unless sick), dont move the decor around etc, if there is a problem the fish will tell you, if they dont like the way the tank is setup they will move it. The more you set there and watch the fish the more likely your going to be anal and want to try and fix it, which you wont be able to do. My Brichardi tank, I only do weekly 25% WC and nothing else and they breed. |
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Fern Senior Member

Join date: 2010-09-07 Age: 29 Location: SW FL
 | Subject: Re: Purigen bag? Fri Nov 19, 2010 5:10 pm | |
| Yup more water changes and some fast growing plants. Yes the fish will telly you when something is off, that's the only time I test water. |
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flo77 FishBox Member
Join date: 2010-06-12 Location: Lynnwood
 | Subject: Re: Purigen bag? Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:40 pm | |
| I agree, floating plants , water sprite and water changes will help removing nitrates. Maybe you are overfeeding? Sometimes the test are not working properly(strips or drops), you can check the accuaracy using a KNO3 solution with a known value.The test strips are less reliable. A good indicator of a high nitrate are the GSA. If you have these algae it means that the ratio nitrate vs phosphate is too high(well, if the phosphate are high also you may not have GSA). Sometimes tap water has 10ppm NO3. Did you test yours? |
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protocl Contributing Member

Join date: 2010-05-18 Location: Highlands.
 | Subject: Re: Purigen bag? Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:51 pm | |
| | Addictedtofish wrote: | | Trust me I still have a hard time just leaving the fish alone. Something I keep getting preached too about, just do your WC and dont waist your time on salt(unless sick), dont move the decor around etc, if there is a problem the fish will tell you, if they dont like the way the tank is setup they will move it. The more you set there and watch the fish the more likely your going to be anal and want to try and fix it, which you wont be able to do. My Brichardi tank, I only do weekly 25% WC and nothing else and they breed. |
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protocl Contributing Member

Join date: 2010-05-18 Location: Highlands.
 | Subject: Re: Purigen bag? Fri Nov 19, 2010 7:53 pm | |
| | Addictedtofish wrote: | | Trust me I still have a hard time just leaving the fish alone. Something I keep getting preached too about, just do your WC and dont waist your time on salt(unless sick), dont move the decor around etc, if there is a problem the fish will tell you, if they dont like the way the tank is setup they will move it. The more you set there and watch the fish the more likely your going to be anal and want to try and fix it, which you wont be able to do. My Brichardi tank, I only do weekly 25% WC and nothing else and they breed. |
every time i stare at my tanks, always want to add, move, remove, replace items. nothing, can be just 'perfect' to me.
i think, i need help. |
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Billiethekid FishBox Member

Join date: 2010-06-23 Age: 22 Location: Shoreline
 | Subject: Re: Purigen bag? Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:06 pm | |
| thts y i read by my tanks or listen to music and do something near em.. so i just glance at em but im busy so only the best ideas are retained.. aka very few... |
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larry.beck Contributing Member

Join date: 2010-05-25 Age: 47 Location: Poulsbo
 | Subject: Re: Purigen bag? Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:03 am | |
| I run purigen in my canister filters, but I don't apply any meds in those tanks whatsoever. Not because of the purigen, but because there are too many fish and I wouldn't want to apply meds to all of them. |
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Kianna FishBox Member

Join date: 2010-05-27 Age: 51 Location: Lakewood, WA
 | Subject: Re: Purigen bag? Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:37 am | |
| | Paintguy wrote: | Also do I need to use the spendy Seachem brand bag or will a normal nylon chemical bag work with the Purigen and last through a bleach cleaning? |
The chemical bags aren't fine enough. What I did was cut up a new pair of womens pantyhose and made up a bunch of pouches. I put the purigen in the pantyhose pouches and I put those pouches in a regular chemical bag and dropped that in my canister filter. I made up several of these so I could put in a fresh one when needed and take my time recharging the old ones.
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larry.beck Contributing Member

Join date: 2010-05-25 Age: 47 Location: Poulsbo
 | Subject: Re: Purigen bag? Sat Nov 20, 2010 12:44 am | |
| I actually did end up buying several of the Seachem bags, a bit spendy as you say but worth it in my opinion. I recharge my purigen in them as well, and simply swap bags when doing filter maintenance. |
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TRD_Power FishBox Member

Join date: 2010-04-30 Location: Bellevue
 | Subject: Re: Purigen bag? Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:13 pm | |
| | protocl wrote: | | Addictedtofish wrote: | | Trust me I still have a hard time just leaving the fish alone. Something I keep getting preached too about, just do your WC and dont waist your time on salt(unless sick), dont move the decor around etc, if there is a problem the fish will tell you, if they dont like the way the tank is setup they will move it. The more you set there and watch the fish the more likely your going to be anal and want to try and fix it, which you wont be able to do. My Brichardi tank, I only do weekly 25% WC and nothing else and they breed. |
every time i stare at my tanks, always want to add, move, remove, replace items. nothing, can be just 'perfect' to me.
i think, i need help. |
Want to go in on a group AA? I'm he EXACT same way! Nothing is perfect to me, so I have to fiddle around with it on a daily basis... Poor Barracuda flips out every time, haha. |
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protocl Contributing Member

Join date: 2010-05-18 Location: Highlands.
 | Subject: Re: Purigen bag? Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:28 pm | |
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